On August 30th, 2023, a neighbor in Ivans, Utah, called 911 after a severely malnourished 12-year-old boy knocked on his door, asking for food and water. That boy turned out to be the son of popular parenting YouTuber Ruby Frankie. He had just escaped out a window of a home belonging to her business partner, Jodie Hildebrandt. What follows is the actual body cam footage of the initial 911 response, the medical care given to the children, and the police sweep of the house. The following video contains depictions of child neglect and abuse. Viewer discretion is strongly advised. >> Yes. >> Hi, I was just wondering if you could do two favors. Well, what are they? >> Uh, taking me to the nearest police station. Well, actually, just one fine. >> What's going on, son? Have a seat there. >> It's personal business. >> Have a seat. >> What's your name? How'd you get here? I >> 1512 >> I just had a 12year-old boy show up here at my front door asking for help and he's uh said he just came from a neighbor's house and >> he's emaciated. He's got tape around his legs. He's hungry and he's thirsty. need someone immediately. >> But he has duct tape around big injuries. There's so around him. >> Yeah, there's sores around him. I think they a good chance he's been >> He also had >> Oh, and he has around his ankle as well. >> His wrists as well. Okay. This boy has been >> needs immediate attention. >> Oh, he was such a good kid. This kid is probably He's hungry and he sat up with his stocking feet. So he he escaped. We need the police here now. >> You know how you do that? >> I hear a car drive. No, they're just not getting out of the truck. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I think these folks are going to examine you. >> I know. on pictures. >> I'll take more if you want me to send them. >> Hey, I'm Sergeant Tober. I'm going to just get a few pictures of your >> How did you get the ropes on you? Who did them? You're not in trouble with me, okay? We're just trying to figure out what's going on. Our main focus right now is you. Okay. Who put the ropes on you? supposed to help you. What? >> Okay. Who? Okay. This one. I said, "What's your name?" Like >> Kildress. So she said she lives over here. I was like, "All right." He's like, "Well, I'm just on my the phone with my sergeant right now." Like, "We're going to try to find the kid for you. >> We need to identify that house. If there's two other kids there, we need to go do a security sweep of that house." >> 12x711, can you head over here to the road? Apparently, those kids may 84 off to the left. Ring, ring, ring. Police officers open up. Got movement right here. Right there. Contact. Don't move my Open the door. >> Jody, I need you to step out. >> I have I have my turn. >> That's great. Step out of the house. >> No, I'm not going to step out of the house. >> Step out of the house. Step out of the house. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, go. >> Come on. Step house. >> Wait a minute. How do you come to my house? >> Right there. >> They going into my house. >> So, have a seat right there. >> Do you have a search warrant? >> Have a seat right there. Do you have a search warrant? >> Have a seat right there. >> I'll explain everything after. Have a seat right there. >> Do you have a search warrant, sir? >> Control 12x7, can you hold the air? We're searching the house. >> I can tell you what's in the house. >> Okay. Just have a seat right there for me. >> Do you have a search warrant? >> We'll explain it after this. >> You can't just come into my house without a search warrant. >> We'll explain everything after this, ma'am. Okay. Well, that's one of the reasons why we're here. So, we'll explain after everything's done. After we clear the house and make sure everything's fine. >> But why are you coming into my house without a certain >> We'll explain it after this. >> But that doesn't make sense. You come into my house and do what you want and then you tell me you don't have a warrant. >> We'll explain why we did. >> But don't you have to have a warrant? >> Not at this moment. We don't. We're here on exitent circumstances. And I'll explain it after this. After my sergeant and the officer are done clearing the house. Is there anybody else in the house? >> Yes. >> Two kids. >> There's a little girl. >> Just one. >> She's right over here. >> Okay. How old is she? >> She'll be 10 next week. >> Okay. And >> she's on this side. Mhm. I have Airbnb guests over there. Probably scared him to death. >> Okay. >> And they're on this side of the house then? >> They're right over there. She's over here. Can you get through the house that way? >> Yes, they just have to go right there. >> There's no other kids besides her? >> No. >> What's her name? >> [sighs] [clears throat] >> Where's the child? >> Should be off to Where are you at? >> Right here to your left. >> Should be off to the left. Right in there. This is the main bedroom. >> Is it the main bedroom? >> It's right there. >> How do you get there from the inside? >> Walk around the corner. There's a little hall and it's the first >> Just around the corner down the hall. >> Second door to the right. Heat. Oh, hey Eve. Eve, is that you? Move. >> Got it. >> There's a 10-year-old down that hallway in that bathroom. >> Where you at? >> I'm right here. Down the house to the right. >> Look like there's Looks like there's two. There's two. >> There's two. >> Look like two. >> There's There's only one. >> Who's this at the door, though? Oh, that's never mind. Sorry, that was one of the officers. I thought it was two. One contact or two. >> It should just be one. Just one. >> Just one. Sorry. I'm holding down here. You got I got this one right here. Police call out. Police Department call out. >> Hi. Are you waiting for me to say something or clear? Yeah. Up there. See the downstairs? We've got one. >> She said our BM our Airbnb people were here. >> They're at the cap scout out there. >> Okay. >> There's only eight. >> What's that? There's only Eve. They're saying there's another person. There's not. >> Okay. I'll bring you home. We clear open air. Yeah. Control 12x11. You're clear open air. God. That's what you want. That's more Are you the owner of the home? Are you renting a room to somebody >> like an Airbnb? Where's that at? >> Is it the basement? >> No. >> There's just a room on the outside there. >> Is that Can you access that room from inside here? Inside the house? Yeah, you can. Okay. >> I have guests there. I don't >> I assume they're there. >> You know where they're from? I think >> they said Salt Lake. >> Salt Lake. Okay. Follow this upstairs. Just make sure you get Come on. Sorry. Adam, I know you have a flight to catch, so they're just >> Well, so they're they're in your home because he lied to them about >> Yeah, I've got a police officer standing right here. >> Okay. >> So, I don't want you to miss your flight. So, >> Well, I'm not going to miss my flight. I'm I'm okay for a minute. >> Okay. >> Have they found her yet? >> Yeah. Yeah. Do you think there's somebody else in the house? There's not. Are there three children that are supposed to be in this house? >> There's one that's here. >> One that's here. There's not three children that are supposed to be here in this home. So, are they still looking for others? >> Yeah, >> I have one officer standing right here with me. There's about six of them. >> I don't know where it is. I know they found her. I don't know if they left it there. I don't know. almost hear me. Please come in. Get your car out. Sorry. >> [snorts] >> All right. One more left. Can you [snorts] hear me, Johnny? >> Yeah. >> No, it's on speaker. Hold on. >> Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. >> [snorts] >> How about you want to do You guys are going to grab cars. >> Mine's still running. down there. I just walked in the house. It was a machine gun in her hands. >> Oh, Jody, I'm so sorry. Hallelujah. Captain. >> Yeah, I think he might be. I'll side with the >> All right. >> Airbnb people. >> Oh, I Are they still here or did they go? I don't know. He had him somewhere on the side. Should we ask him? >> Mhm. This is the job. This is the last story. That's what This is no reason. Oh, wait. is the officer still there? >> Yeah. >> Is there an officer that's close by you? >> He's standing somebody. >> I don't know who he is, but he is >> my lieutenant. >> He's lieutenant. >> I have a question for you. >> Yeah. >> You have a room downstairs that has a safe wheel on the front. >> How do we get access to that to ensure that there's no one else in this home? >> Adam, >> um they they do need to search that there's nobody else. So, I think you can give them access to make sure there's nobody in there. >> Okay. And then you don't have to tell me the code. If you just want to open it, we're going to go in and make sure that nobody's else there. And then we'll sit down and have a conversation after that as far as why we're here. >> Does that make sense? >> Yes, it makes sense. And I >> Do you want to open it then? >> I don't know if I have the code. >> I've >> Does he have the code and he can tell you the code and that's just between you two? >> No. That thing has been locked for a couple years and I would have to call whatever it is. >> Okay. >> Is that a panic room or a room where >> It's a room with a toilet with a sink. >> Toilet and a sink. And you don't know the code. >> I haven't used it. >> Okay. All right. Let's get people from You got to call the safe company. Is that who you have to call? >> I assume that's where I have to call. Okay. >> This hasn't been at the top of my priority list. >> Yeah. Sleep. So, can you put the phone here? >> Yeah. Just Yeah. >> Check what? Um I I don't know what that means. Mhm. Mhm. I just think if I call think if I call the I don't know that for certain, but I think if I call the the corner it's called it's called Liberty Safe, but I don't know if they're going to know because I'm the one that said it, but that was 6 years ago. Hey. No, >> no. >> Okay, put on speaker. Okay, hold on. Okay, you're on speaker. >> Hello, >> officer. So, uh, the other individual, I don't know if that was you, mentioned that you would explain the purposes, uh, behind what you thought were the exigent circumstances. Can you tell us those now? >> I can't. You'd have to talk to my sergeant or lieutenant about that. >> Could you get them, please? >> Yeah. Thanks. >> See LT the she's on the phone with her attorney. Okay. He's asking what >> the reasons why we're here >> cuz when I pull her out I told her I was like we're just here existing circumstances required us to be here. So he's like what are those? I said I have to talk to somebody. >> No talk to his face and talk to him on the phone. >> Do what? >> Yeah. No, I can talk to him on the phone. >> Is that your attorney? >> Okay. >> Hello sir. >> Hey. Thanks, Lieutenant Studley. Hey, so we're not going to have any uh conversation over the phone. We'll probably do that in person. Is there a time that we could sit down and meet? >> Well, there is. I'm getting on a plane. Uh so, it would need to be Friday. >> Okay. >> Could we do Friday? >> Absolutely. What time Friday works for you? Um >> well we do in the afternoon. >> You you tell me what time I will be available. >> Um Jody with 1:00 on Friday work. >> Yeah. >> Do you want Jody there? I presume? >> Yes. >> Okay. And and you are supposed to announce yourself and explain the purpose. to explain that to Jody while I'm on the phone. >> Not not yet, but I I can do that with with you on the phone, but again, there won't be any dialogue. Um, we received a report of an emaciated juvenile um that had duct tape around his uh extremities that was asking for food and water. And based on that information, there are other people in the home. So, we're ensuring that there is nobody else in the same condition. So, under that exit sheet C, we've entered the home. >> Thank you. I appreciate that, Lieutenant. We will plan on >> on Friday at 4. >> Okay. >> And where where were we? >> Our police department. It's 55 North Main Street in Ivans. >> Did you hear that? Um, >> I did. Yeah. and and Jody. Um officer, thank you. I don't know if you >> Yeah. No, we're here. >> Okay. Um Jody, we'll just plan on on 4:00 on Friday. Um and um and and Ruby's on her way down for the children, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, actually before I I hang up officer, can I talk to Joey just briefly? >> Absolutely. I will walk away and you are on your own. When he comes and takes her, >> I think they're going to take her. I think they're going to take us. I'll stand I'll stay at the door. Okay. >> Okay. Eve. Good luck. All right. That's all good. >> All I know is that someone needs to go drive to search one. So that's probably >> I just wonder if to do that based on his info. You got her. He's straight in there. Welcome. I'm at the front door. What happened? Captain. Relieve the captain. Yes. Relieve the captain. He's uh Hey, just you still have your attorney on the phone. >> Okay. I just want to advise you of our intentions. Um it seems like there's a room we can't get into. We're getting some conflicting information. We're going to go draft a search warrant. We'll be right back. Okay. >> What does that mean? A search warrant. >> What's that? >> What does he mean? the search warrant. >> I'm just going to get a warrant from the judge. >> You're already here. I don't understand what that means. >> They'll explain it to you when they give it to you. >> Okay. Getting conflicting information from >> I don't know. I don't know who they talked to since we've been here. Like I said, well, the reason Lieutenant Stley said the reason why we're here is to make sure everybody was okay. Um, that everybody was I mean, the condition we found Russell in. Um, the search warrant, I imagine, is going to be some do more in-depth search of the house. Um, right now it's just safety and security of the people. >> Got it. making sure they're okay. >> No, I see your position. >> Yeah, >> that's why I'm crying. >> Yeah, >> I see why you think this is submission. >> Yeah, it's sad. >> Yeah, I noticed you got a giant bug though back there. >> Yeah, it's on my to-do list. He fell off the >> guy came and did a >> spray >> spray and like 3 days later I had bugs everywhere >> all dead work >> that one a couple >> I assume that made sure that it was it was dead cuz that would look a little intimidating. Yeah, >> you can probably sit on the couch so you're not out here in the sun. >> If you guys want to go sit the bathroom. >> Absolutely. >> Just have to make sure no one's in the bathroom and let her go in. >> Okay. Okay. >> Oh, yeah. Can you help me out? My bad. He's talking. I don't know where he's at. >> He's talking to mine. I >> think he's outside. Did >> you bring one of the cars up? >> I hope so. Otherwise, mine's still blocking the road. >> Like the address. I pulled it up, right? And I drove over and it's like I'm the last car at the very end right there. >> Oh, damn. I think >> I rolled up and the lady's like I'll bring down the sheet. I'm like, "What the heck?" >> Yeah. I think he went down and grabbed mine. Mine was blocking over the road. So >> yeah, I think I was lying. >> Oh yeah, >> that's what I would pick. >> I have bracelets. I'm gave up almost. patrol. >> Oh, I should have more bracelets in my car somewhere. Almost missed that stuff. Just have a seat on the couch. Hello. So they told you we're just they're in the process of just writing a war right now. We're just kind of waiting on that just so that you know that process that's why we're just sitting around. >> What is the difference? >> Huh? >> What is the difference? The difference is is the reason we came in without a warrant with what we call exit circumstances. We were worried about other children and things like that. Um and then once we once we've kind of solidified that and we don't have anything, then we have to write a warrant to be able to continue with our investigation on the home. Does that make sense? So the the first entrance is just is just for well or safe safety. The second is if we want to gather any evidence or anything like that, we have to have a warrant. If we want like we need to get into that safe to verify no one's in there, so we have to have a warrant, meaning we end up having to head it off if we can't figure out how to get in there without doing that. You know what I mean? We don't want to cause damage, but sometimes we're just we're we're faced with that if we can't figure out how to get in there. So things like that. >> The children's number. >> What's that? the children's mother. We know her. >> Okay, great. That's great. We're from from >> Canada. >> From where? >> Utah County. >> Oh, Utah County. Okay. So, she's going to be a few hours. >> Okay. >> There's only two kids. >> Just the two kids. Just a boy and girl. Okay. And the boy is here. >> Huh? >> Stay with me for a little longer. >> Okay. What's the boy's name? >> Oh, okay. I think you can hear somebody. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Heat. Heat. Good. All right. Heat. Heat. Oh, it's 1 2 3 4 5 [ __ ] Heat. Mhm. world. Yeah. Awesome. Sounds good. Heat. Heat. Nice research. Last I'm not there. Sorry. Mhm. All right. There you go. Hello. >> Hey. >> You there? >> Yeah. >> Where are you at? >> Yeah. When I first got there or in the ambulance first observed the kid, he was sitting on the chair, had the um duct tape and plastic around uh his ankles. And then he had a long sleeve shirt on. And then we pulled his sleeves up and he had duct tape and clear plastic underneath the sleeves on both wrists. And then uh medical got there, they started cutting his cutting the stuff off him. And then you can see like the the dark around his ankles and it it you could smell it the flesh. It's underneath the tape. As soon as they took it off, you can even outside you can smell you can smell the the flesh. And then um the transport or put him in the ambulance. I went in there. Um they started cutting more off of it. You can see the wounds on the back of his ankles around the front of his ankles. Um and then on his wrists as well. And um the wounds around his ankles were dark. and um like I don't know like wet looking I guess from the moisture underneath it. Yeah. He said he said uh he was tied on the ground with a rope. That's where the wounds came from. Yeah. With ropes on all four of his extremities. And that's where the wounds came from. And then um they put the he put >> Yeah. They put cayenne pepper mixed with uh honey, he said, on the wounds and then covered that with the plastic saran wrap and then the duct tape over the wounds. Yeah. And then that's what we cut off was that Yeah, they dressed the wounds. Um, some of the wounds when I was in there, um, when they went to go, um, peel it, they thought it was some of the dressing. It was actually his skin that was peeling. Yeah. And Yeah. So, Yeah. All right. Go. you. Come on, my buddy. I'm a police officer. You need >> Hey, you okay? Is this just you in here? I'm Sergeant Tobler. What's your name? I just have one. >> Where's your sister at? >> Contact one. >> You okay? >> Huh? >> You doing okay? You don't want to talk to me? That's okay. Can you come with me, though? We got Jod out here. You know Jod? She's outside with us. >> You take your time, bud. I'm in no hurry. >> I'm a police officer. Did you know that? >> I don't mean to hurt you at all. >> You doing okay? Are you scared? >> Yeah. >> You're okay. >> Do you need help? You want to come with me? >> No. >> Not going to hurt you. Promise. >> See this right here? It's a badge. It tells me I don't hurt people. I'm just here to make sure you're okay. You're in no way in any trouble. I'm not here to hurt you. I just want to make sure you're okay. >> I get you if you're scared. I would be too. >> Okay. Want to come with me? >> Sit down. It's okay if I just sit here with you. We don't have to say anything if you don't want to. >> Okay. >> Sit here with No one tells stories better than story. motivation and so much more story. You don't want to talk. Okay. There's nothing at all you want to talk about at all. It's okay to talk to me. Are you scared? >> So, can we carry you from there? choice. I promise. Thank you. Promise. >> We helped your brother and we got him some help, too. That's what we want to do for you. That's we want to get you some help, too. We are safe. We will not hurt you. And we won't do anything to hurt you. Still >> [clears throat] >> But you know I am entertaining the Miranda rightites before we start. We're just going to kind of ask you a few questions about your involvement. Okay. So first you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be held against you in the court of law. Okay. You have the right to an attorney or to have him or her present while questioning if you cannot afford to hire one. One will be a for or um hired to represent you. If you decide to answer questions, you can stop at any time. Okay. Do you understand your rights? >> Uh I do. >> Okay. Do you wish to speak to me now? >> Well, I want to pick up my kids. >> How about this? We're going to ask you some questions and if you don't want to answer them, you just say, "Hey, man. I'm not going to answer that." >> Sure. >> Just say, "Hey, I'm not going to talk. That's not beneficial to you." And then we're done. There's no way I'm going nowhere. Sure. >> Did you understand that, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, just for starters, what was your full name? >> Kevin William Frankie. >> How do you spell that? >> K E V I N W I L L I A M F R A N K E. >> And what's your date of birth? What's a good address for you? Uh, >> my Well, I'm not comfortable giving my address right now. >> Okay. But you do live in Springville. >> I do. >> How long have you lived in Springville for? >> Um, I moved there in 2007 with my family. So, >> Okay. >> And 17 years. >> 17. And how many kids do you have, Kevin? I have six kids. And what are their names? I can't remember. >> Some of them are teenagers. Two adults. Yeah. >> So, are they all living with you or >> No, I haven't seen them for over a year. >> Any of them? >> No. None of them. >> For a year. >> Over a year. Okay. >> I've been in a separation. >> From who? >> From my wife and family. What's your wife's name? >> Ruby. >> Freaky. >> When's the last time I saw Ruby? >> The last time I saw her? >> Yeah. >> Was um the 18th >> of >> of this month. We met to she requested me to sign over vehicles or the titles to the vehicles the vehicle that she drives were all in my name. >> When's the last time you physically saw Russell or >> um the day that I moved out? July 24th, 2022. >> 24th of 2022. or July 25th. Joy. July 25th. >> So, it's my understanding that that at least >> home here in in K&10 Ivans. Have you been to that home? >> No. >> You've not been to that home? >> Uh, no. I don't know. I don't know what's anything that's been going on. >> Like, this is good, man. Like, I would love to be able to help you out with this. And like I'm seeing a light of this tunnel cuz I'm I'm unaware of your involvement in in what's really going on. So for you to say that you're unaware of the status of your kids kind of makes I know that sounds kind of crummy to you, but it sounds kind of good to me. Like who lives in that home with your is it ex-wife? Is it currently a separated wife? Like who lives in that home with your children? >> To be honest, I don't know. I I know that she's there with um four of the children and our two older children has moved out. >> They're they're not at your home in Springville, >> but >> and I'm not trying to trip you up. I can see you're hesitant to talk to me. I understand that. >> Well, where where I live? No, I haven't seen them for over a year. Okay, that's tough. I can only imagine how that feels, man. I got kids and not have seen him for that long. That that would tear a little piece of my heart out. >> Of age to drive. Does she drive? >> I don't know. >> Okay. >> Like I said, I don't I know nothing is going on in their lives or anything going on. How did you find out that you needed to come here to 55 North Main Street? >> I received a message that I needed to come pick up my kids from the police department in Highlands. >> And who was that message from? >> Uh, well, I prefer not to say it right now. >> It would just help us a lot. >> I'll try to figure out who reached out to you because it makes sense that that would happen. I'm just not aware of anyone who did that from our department. >> Right. and and I'm not comfortable saying right now who reached out to me. >> Okay. >> So, you haven't seen any of your kids in over a year? You said >> that's correct. >> And then the last time you saw her, how old is she? >> 15. >> She's 15. Okay. And then when all the kids left, Ruby took all of them. >> Yeah. She stayed in the house and I moved up. >> Okay. And did you ever try to reach out to the kids, drop by the home, or >> No. >> Was there >> I honored the no separation boundary that we agreed to. >> So, what was your separation >> no contact boundary? Excuse me. >> Did you have a no contact order in place? >> Order? No. This was between my wife and >> So, what did Ruby ask of you when you separated? >> What did she ask of me? Did she ask you not to contact the kids? >> Ruby invited me to leave the home. >> Mhm. >> While I um thought about the the choices that I've made in my life and the way that I've treated her. >> Okay. >> And so I left. >> And how long had you and Ruby been married before? >> We were married in 2000. >> So about 22 years. When we separated, we were going on 22 years. Yes. >> And during your marriage, how was how was disciplining your kids? How would you discipline your kids? >> Um, yeah, I'm not going to answer that question. >> Okay, that's fine. >> Have you been since separated or since they lived here in the city of Ivans? Um, have you communicated with your wife regarding like discipline with your kids or their care or their physical well-being? >> No. >> So, is she doing this on her own and just telling you how your kids are? >> She's not telling me anything about the kids. >> Who's this? Who's this uh female Jodie that your wife would do? Do you know a female named Jodie? She is a therapist and a life coach, I know. And she's >> Do you respect her? >> Uh, do I respect her? I think she's a very honest, >> truthful person. Yes. >> Okay. You place value on Jodie? >> I don't know what that means. >> Like, do you do you you value what she says and and how she treats? Is your wife a client of hers? Is your wife a partner of hers? Is your wife a roommate with her? Your kids are living in her house is what I'm trying to say. >> I'm not aware of that. But I know that they've been in business for the last year filming. >> Who's they? >> Ruby and Jody. They film. >> They film podcasts. And so every week a podcast goes up and I listen to it. What's the name of it? >> Uh, connections with an X. >> Like C O N. >> C O N E X I O N S. Yeah. >> And then like do you support them in that role in doing that and having >> do I support them in the business? >> Yeah. Like do you do you support them and think that what they're doing is a good thing or >> I support their business efforts. I think it's a good thing. >> Are you involved with their business efforts or >> No. Okay. >> So, just Ruby and Jody. >> Okay. >> In the business? >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And were you involved in the eight passengers account with your family? >> Um, yes. I was in the videos, if that's what you mean. >> I briefly learned about this 2 hours ago. >> So, did Ruby more so do the videos for the family? Mhm. >> And how long did you guys do that for? Uh she started the channel in 2015 and as far as as I'm aware from the time I left the last video she uploaded was towards the end of 2021. >> Okay. >> And I but I again I'm not aware of anything she's done since our separation. I don't visit paid passengers anymore. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. chapter of your life that's gone. It it it's a past chapter. Yeah. >> So, how do you and Ruby communicate? Just through text, phone call? >> Through text. And if there's anything considered an emergency, we agreed that we would communicate through a phone call. >> Okay. And do you know her phone number off the top of your head? off the top of my head. Uh, >> no. >> Okay, no worries. So, how often would you guys communicate while she was down here? >> Well, I don't know how often or long she was down here. We've communicated maybe four times in 2023 since January. >> So, are you aware of how she disciplines the kids or how she handles? >> No. >> The kids with behavioral issues or anything like that? >> No. >> So, you're unaware of how she does that? >> Yes. >> Okay. Are you aware of the physical condition of your children? >> No. No, I'm I've chosen to trust my wife with the children. That was part of the agreement of our separation. >> Is that you allow her to physically provide for the [snorts] needs of the child just removed from that? I mean, you pay support. I know this is personal questions, but >> No. Yes. My job is to financially provide for >> I'm just trying to figure out like how how much of a role do you play in the caretaking of specifically is it >> I I pay the bills. >> Okay. >> With my my job I provide the money goes into a shared bank account and that's my only involvement. >> Okay. Um, like there's a whole bunch of things that I want to talk to you about, but I I still can't get over the fact that someone notified you to come here to pick up your kids. My guess is, was that was that uh Jody? >> I'm not going to answer that question. >> Okay. >> All All I'll say is, >> well, you said you trusted her. You said that you think that she's not I asked you if you place value on her but you you obviously >> she is an honest I know her to be an honest and a trustworthy individual and so yeah I trust her and um I received a communication that And so I left immediately from my job and drove down here. That's all I know. I've come to pick up my kids and to take them home with me. >> Yeah. Is there custodial paperwork that says that you're like a there's there's no custodial paperwork denying you rights? Correct. >> Uh there's no custodial paperwork at all. Period. So the kids are yours. >> They are mine. Okay. Yes. We This was an just a verbal agreement between my wife and I when we said last year. >> What questions do you have? >> Well, I want to know what's going on and why I was asked to come down and pick up my two kids. Well, >> and a lot of that kind of hinges on who asked you because if we had been the one like I'm I'm not going to say you fit, but I'm I'm confident a cop didn't call you because we wouldn't have wanted you down here at this point in our investigation. So, having said that, I I think it's time we we be honest with you, right? >> Sure. No, and I didn't lie. Someone contacted me but I don't want to say >> from your office but okay. >> Well, I don't recall seeing someone from my office. >> Our office? >> Yeah. So, we don't know who called you. >> So, if we knew who called you, then we could help you. >> It would make more sense. >> But, >> well, I don't know the legal ramifications of implicating individuals who contacted me. And so without a lawyer here, I don't want to answer that question. >> That's okay. But here, you want to know specifics of the case, which we can't share right now because it's under investigation. So >> I see. >> Yeah. So we would like to ask questions about where you found out, but we'll respect that if you don't want to share that information. But I am curious. When you guys had the previous eight passengers YouTube channel, you guys got a lot of heat for neglect and child abuse. A lot of people commented those things on there. Why were they commenting those things? >> That's a good question. Um, we uh we had a son who was acting out in very selfish behavior. >> Just Chad or >> Yes, this was Chad. And you know, none of this is strange or odd. You could get on YouTube and find out all sorts of stuff on this. It's like a double-edged sword. >> Yeah. The question is what do you believe right there? There there was even an article written in um Newsweek magazine in 2020 on it and or News was it Newsweek? No, Business Insider where we were interviewed and we were pretty straightforward and we talked about it and we shared our piece in that. Basically, it boils down to he was being um very cruel and mean to his siblings that he shared a room with. And so we removed him from the room. And we said, "You can sleep anywhere you want. Sleep on the couch, sleep on the pull out bed, sleep on the floor for all we care, but you're not sleeping in that room with your brother who um he chose to sleep on a bean bag. So 9 months later he had made a lot of changes in his life and he was ready to and and we had moved by that time and so we had a new house and he was ready to move into his own bedroom. made a video about it and in the video he mentioned something of the effect of I've been sleeping for nine months on a bean bag and that is what all the uproar was about. >> What did you guys do to help like with his behavioral issues? Is that is that something you and Ruby talked about together is and then did you helping discover yourself and fix behavioral issues and things like that. Is that is that something you and Ruby sought out to help correct like some of the things? >> Yes. And >> Okay. >> And I supported it. And so together we held boundaries for our son Jeff to support his choosing honest and responsible choices. And when he chose honest and responsible choices consistently is when he began to get his privileges back. And that was >> that was the other right. And so um but yes um through 2000 contact with him because I'm honoring the no contact separation boundary with uh that I agreed to with my wife, but I understand that he's um 18, living on his own somewhere in Provo and working and supporting himself. What other kids went down to visit Jod? >> What other kids? >> Yeah. Did you send any of the other kids down to We didn't send Chad down to spend time with Jod. They would meet on Zoom. >> Ah, that makes sense. >> Okay. >> Yeah. We were in spring. >> Uhhuh. Well, even in 2019, we would she would meet with >> So, when did Ruby and Jody, to your knowledge, like decide to collaborate, come together and mesh life cuz that's what it that's what's happened. >> Well, the they decided to start a business in 2021. >> So, while you while you and Ruby were together? >> Yes. Okay. >> Yeah. And but there were, you know, at that period it was pretty nebulous. I I don't know >> what's that word mean. >> It was it was just a lot of talk and and weren't like solid plans. It was let's start by you know doing podcasts together and and then that's all I know. I know that uh they published a book together recently. You can find on Amazon. It's not a secret. Um, >> was business thriving? Like life was good between those two? >> Uh, well, not that I was aware. >> Well, at some point, and again, I'm not digging into your life, but I'm trying to understand this. At some point, >> we took kick you out. When you talk about a business, you know, thriving >> in terms of business and money, when when we stopped eight passengers on YouTube, we lost 90% of our income. So to say that business was thriving, um, in my perspective, no. >> Got it. >> I don't think it ever was. >> After that, >> was that part of your guys's reason for separation after you guys ended eight passengers? Uh was that part of the reason? Um, the the reasons are because of of ways that I treated my wife and um and some um of my own addictions that I was working through and seeking help on with. um with uh pornography. >> Thank you for sharing that. >> And I've Yeah, I've made some wonderful progress. >> Like, is that something you came to the realization that you needed help and weren't doing things right? Or is that something that like Jody helped you guys recognize that maybe Ruby needed more? I'm trying to understand her involvement in your guys's life. >> Um she's my focus. So, just be honest. >> I understand and I I can perceive that um Jod and Ruby have a um a close relationship and and Jody saw the need for me to get help. And um frankly, I agree. I this space um has been exactly what I need to face, you know, my own um addictions and and receive the support and help that I've needed. And so this space has been um very very good for me. M. >> So when you stated that you and Ruby had this no contact that you guys just verbally agreed upon, was that an idea given by Jodie that she recommended you guys have that space and not contact one another? >> I'm not aware of that. It the the invitation for me to leave and take space was from my wife. But that was while Jody and Ruby were friends and collaborating and doing podcasts and >> Sure. >> Well, you're the you're the custodial parent of each other. I don't see why we can't explain to you what why we're involved. So, I don't recall the exact time, but sometime before 11:00 today, we received uh a phone call from 911 on our dispatch that uh a 12 to 13year-old boy was knocking on doors in a neighborhood asking for food and water. That he was severely emaciated. That he had >> What does emaciated mean? skinny, scrawny, uh, malnutritioned, not enough food, not enough water to sustain life. So, he had >> I'm sorry, what? >> He had duct tape on his extremities, on his hands, on his ankles, and those were covering rope burns that were used to tie him down. Take a second and think about what I just said. That's the condition of your son. Given that information, your son was taken to the hospital. A warrant has been applied and granted by the Department of Child and Family Services to remove. So, no one right now is going to have access to these two children based on their physical condition. Do you understand that? >> I understand. >> Do you would you condone that behavior? >> Would I condone that behavior? Um, >> that's my job. My job is to find out your knowledge of the treatment of these these >> based on precious children. No, I bet again I don't know the details or I don't know what's going on. But as you describe that, that sounds >> horrible, horrible, disgusting. No human being should be treated like that. >> I Yeah. Okay, >> that's my thoughts. But again, we might be different on that. >> Um, we're going to let you stay here for a second. Okay, we're going to go talk. Um, I'm not saying you're you're still not free to go. Are you under arrest? Absolutely not. We just have lots of questions we're waiting to figure out. Lots. >> Okay. >> Okay. Because >> your your children are under medical care right now. >> And what does that mean? >> And it means that you don't have access to my understanding is that they are what is that? >> They're in the custody of DCFS. >> And they will be for the next seven. There's a medical hold on them right now. So for at least the next 72 hours based on our understanding >> at least the next 7 days. >> During observation you're being watched. >> DCFS is going to provide you that information and they can better answer your questions along those lines. That's handled through them. Okay. So we'll be back. >> So I want you to think about some things though. I don't know. >> I don't know. Listen to me. Listen to me. I want you to think about that for a minute. I have no idea where they're at. >> Well, I don't either, but um Okay, we're going to hop out here. We'll be back in a minute. Okay. That's still recording audio and video. Okay. So, if you would don't make any phone calls. >> Sure. There are Hey, that's Yes. Yes. What's going to happen to my wife? I love my wife. [snorts] >> I don't know. I'm being honest with you. I don't know. Haven't had interviews charges against my wife. >> Possibly. I think given the circumstances that's highly appropriate, but again, I don't know your wife. I was hoping to gain some insight from you, but I don't necessarily know that that's something you wanted to. >> I trust her. >> A road you wanted to travel down with me. So, >> and not without legal representation. >> Yeah. All right. I get it. >> But I love my wife and I trust my wife. And so I mean this feels like getting run over by a steam truck while you're sharing with me today. >> Yeah, I can tell you caught off guard. >> I thought I was just coming here to pick up my kids and for what I don't know what or why, but and I was planning on taking them back with me and just I'd love to have a candid conversation with you. I just don't know how it's going to be received by you. I don't know you, but I can tell you my perception of how this happened. >> Well, I'm interested. It's >> Look, I'm interested in facts, but at the same time, I'm >> I'm I'm interested in all the facts. >> But you understand our facts. Our facts are that you have a child that is emaciated malnutrition and and has marks. I I didn't spend any time with her. Sergeant Tobler did. >> Did any of you spend time with her? You didn't spend time I have not. She went to She was requested to go to the hospital along with based on their condition. Folks, I don't know what to do. Like, I want to You realize that I have a picture of my family on my wall and I look at it every day and I work. I work every day so I can get back to my family and save my family. And everything you're sharing to me just sounds like a madeup story. Like I I have no idea what you're talking about. [clears throat] Like this just it sounds like a horror movie. And I get you're all you're all doing your jobs. I get it. I understand. >> [snorts] >> And this is this is my life. I just want my kids. I just [snorts] want my kids. I just want my family. >> [sighs] >> We want to have you. >> I don't I don't know what's going on. I don't know why these things that you describe happen. I I don't know. It's almost like I want to say I I'm sorry. You must have somebody else because It's like am I in the right conference room here? >> Yeah, that's what I like. It's real. You know, I'm having a hard time accepting this and dealing with this. I mean, you're telling me that you're taking my kids from me? >> Like, we need to transfer the titles of the car to my name, you know, or um we're going to cancel these credit cards and and stuff like that. So, just stuff related to the finances really is the our only communications over the past year. >> Sure. We we've had zero like zero communications regarding the kids. >> Okay. >> I've had no reason to believe or think that there was anything going on. For all intents and purposes, I woke up this morning looking at the picture of my family and making my commitment today as I do every day that I'm going to live an honest, a virtuous, and a responsible life. today. >> And what you're sharing with me just feels like a sucker punch. And just imagine, Brianna, do you have questions? Okay. >> If I still have a family. >> Yeah. And um like I just um I I don't know what my plan my plan is to go to God. >> Sure. >> And to figure this out, >> right? And um I am just heartbroken what you all are sharing with me and um I just I feel like I feel responsible separate What are you feeling? >> It hurts. And the um I wish I was a better husband. I know you're all doing [clears throat] your jobs and I know you all have best interest on my kids at night. I appreciate that. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. That means a lot. >> I just want my kids back. I want my family back. Want my wife back. Okay. I don't want this to sound rude. Kevin, we've got some things to do, but we're not kicking you out, but the building's closed. Okay. >> You're going to be okay driving home? I really am worried about you. Okay. Okay. Do do your best. Breathe. Got to pull over the side of the road. >> Do you drink Red Bulls? >> Want your water to go then? >> I have water. Hello. You know how fast you're going right there? No. >> Okay. Got you going 57 and a 35. I'll be back real quick. control 12 x 17 27 by number. >> Okay. 162 271 333. Copy. 12 17 Ruby Frank showing valve express 2031 29 10 is showing valid 2031 South control. >> Copy that. Thank you. >> [snorts] >> control 308. Echo 30. I'm clear. Okay, here's your info back. A citation for speed. Got you going 57 and a 35. I wrote you down for a 50. Um, you have 5 days no more, 14 to contact Santa Clara Justice Court. It shows right there in that little box right there. And then just has a phone number right there. >> Okay. You have any questions for me? >> Okay. Just slow down for me, please. Thank you. total 1754. All right, I'm going to have you stand up. All right. Thank you. You go ahead and face this officer. Go and place your hand on top of your head. Youize your fingers, please. Thank you. >> Just put your hands on top of your head. Sure you're good. Look to your left. Okay. Thank you. >> Hey, Friday work for uh the interview, but I got Jessica. She's going to give me a card. We can schedule another day. We're thinking Monday maybe for that interview. >> Oh no. >> We'll get you a card. You can get with Adam and schedule that. Okay. >> How How do I schedule it? You guys are on the phone. >> We'll give you a card with the phone number >> and then and then Yeah, you can call Adam and have Adam call us >> and we can schedule it or you can call us and schedule either way. Mhm. >> Okay. Just going to do another quick check, another research, too. Nothing in your pockets. You have nothing on you at all. Okay, let's go there. You go out the front door to my vehicle out there. >> We'll put her on the right side. Hey, guess Jessica. Can >> I put it in there? Wait. >> Yeah, you can. >> Okay. Go ahead, Judy. This right side of the vehicle, please. Hop on me. I'll help you if you need. >> Yeah, I had a crash on the right size. My shoulders screwed up. >> Okay. Just be careful then. I'm going got you right here. Much as I can. >> Do you would it be comfortable? Yeah. >> Put your cuffs on me. Go ahead and step on out. I got you. I got you. >> So, he's going to >> come on out. No one more. I got you. We're going to double cuff you so that you have more room for your shoulders. So, he's going to take one of your hands out. Okay. When he does that, I want you to place that hand on your head for me. >> I need a good one for uh her thing. Just trying to figure out which one would be easier. Okay. Put that on top of your head. Thank you. Hold that one there. I'm going just put a different clip. So, made a little wider so your arms are bad. Okay. Go ahead and bring it back down. Bring this one back down. So, now look how wide that is. Better. Okay. Let me double lock it so it doesn't get any tighter. Okay. Go ahead and get your back. I got as much as I can. >> Hey, sorry. Cuz I'm going to go the other side. Go back. >> Yep. >> Good. >> Okay. We'll be We'll be right back here. Okay, >> you got them. >> I just have a few more for you. >> Do you have an extra set of handcuffs? >> I have some in my chair. >> You want to grab grab me one? >> He needs >> Thank you. I'll get them back to you when I get back. >> So, this warrant officer is going to be given to other [ __ ] [ __ ] the other. Yes. So, [cheering] you'll be able That's it. But I just want to unlock the door while you hold us. [laughter] Good. >> All right. Step up, please. Thank you. Go and face that officer. Put your hand on the top of your head, please. Interlace your fingers. Thank you. Put on top of your head. Look to your left. Thank you. I just don't want to hit you in the head with the cup. Okay. Go down. Right here. The ones that locked on the outside got >> I know you got searched already. I don't by uh baits. You don't have anything in your pockets at all. Right. You have just these ones only. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's go. left up the stairs. We'll go out the front door that way. >> Hey, just hang on one second right here in the lobby. Okay. Okay. >> [sighs] >> We want to let you know what you're what criminal charges for. So, you're under arrest. It's going to be two counts secondderee felony of child abuse or neglect. Okay. Do you understand that or no? Are you okay? I'm wondering if there's like a medical clearance that needs to like do do you need medical attention before you go to the jail? No. >> Okay. All right. Well, we'll have you soon as she gets down here, we'll bring you out. Okay. Okay. Have you ever been arrested before? I just concerned about you. I know you don't believe that, but I've had an opportunity to talk to your husband and kind of worried about your circumstances and obviously your children as well, but you're sure you don't need medical attention or anything like that? Think too much soda. >> Soda. >> Some soda. >> I had soda in two years. >> Why did you start today? >> I don't know. It's all around. [laughter] Don't feel too good right now drinking that soda. Yeah. We'll >> see. We'll see what happens later. It's okay. I will I will uh say it works out because I worked up for 2 hours today. So I I buy three sodas. >> You go. >> No, I'm sweating it off >> since it's so hot downstairs. >> Oh god. Oh, it was >> I found the AC unit, so I turned down. >> Oh, down there. >> Mhm. >> It was 78. >> Her house. >> Oh, dude. >> Yeah. Yeah. What's going on? Yeah. Do you We probably need to do another >> content. Yeah. >> She's not wearing bra or anything. But I'm just going to make sure you don't have anything in your pockets. >> You're not wearing anything else under this, correct? >> No, ma'am. >> Spandex. Nothing. You don't remember what you're >> Okay. I just want to make sure that you don't have anything. Just widen the stance a little bit for me. >> Yep. Thank you. Okay. So, I just spoke You can turn to face me. So, I just spoke with Jo, but you both are under arrest right now for child abuse. Okay. Do you have any questions for me at this time? No questions. Okay. You can open it. >> So, if you would >> in December 2023, both Ruby Frankie and Jodie Hildebrandt pleaded guilty to multiple counts of aggravated child abuse. They were each sentenced to serve four consecutive terms of 1 to 15 years in prison and both remain incarcerated here in 2026. Shortly after the arrests, Kevin Frankie filed for divorce. As for the children, they were placed into protective custody and have spent the last few years undergoing intensive therapy and recovery completely away from the public eye. Thank you for watching this breakdown. Please leave your thoughts in the comments below. And if you want to support the channel, consider subscribing.