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Police Violate Auditors Rights ID Refusal in Public

What's good, Kansas City? Right back ain't cheating. So today, we just walking down the sidewalk, keeping everyone honest, making sure that they do honor and respect our right to report in public peacefully. On the way in Kansas City, go ahead and hit that subscribe button and while you at it, go ahead and smash that like button and most definitely leave a comment. I do have a guest with me, man. Fappa. Hey, if y'all want to see more, I'm not going to talk y'all ear off. I love every last one of y'all dearly. right now. Kansas City. >> Here we go. >> Huh? Hey, how's it going, man? >> Yeah. Which channel is you that >> uh Kansas City Accountability >> CD? >> Kansas City >> Accountability on YouTube and Facebook. >> Okay. Kansas City. Okay. >> Accountability. >> I will come in that. >> Yes, sir. You have a blessed day. >> Yeah, I will see in that channel. >> Yes, sir. I have no idea. You guys have celebrity. I don't know I'm sorry. >> What you filming? >> Just like the license plates of the cars that come in and out of this place right here. >> Why the license plate? Our boss sent us out here to do it. >> Oh, who's your boss? >> I don't know if I can give out like his personal information, but that's the supervisor, right? >> What's the company? >> I don't know if I can give out I just kind of started, but that's the supervisor right here. >> Yeah. Can I just ask what's going on or >> just the recording and stuff? I I don't care. I just just to record it. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Just we're just getting like license plates and like keep the faces like for AI and stuff like that. >> The cars that come in and out right here. >> Okay. >> If that's okay with you. >> Uh yeah, just try not to get in anybody's faces. >> Oh, no. That's >> that's what we our boss sent us out here. That's what we have to do. >> Okay. >> So, and we was actually about to leave here in a few hours. We wasn't going to be out here long. Just trying to catch the morning rush. Okay. >> Cuz typically, you know, it's we can get more faces. >> Yeah. Um, my only thing is I just don't know how Starbucks would feel about that. Uh, just with all of our customer faces. >> Even if our boss sent us here though, sir. >> Yeah. Just because it's private property. >> Well, let me ask you, hold on. We just had somebody recording. >> Let me ask you this. >> We had somebody recording inside there. >> Would you want to speak with him? >> Truthfully, no. Uh, I got a lot of stuff going on. Uh, >> we do, too. So, I mean >> I mean, it's okay. I mean, just just because we have to be here. >> Yeah. >> And I didn't know if he >> Just like you got a job to We got a we got a job to do. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. Um Okay, that's fine. >> And what's your name? >> My name's Andrew. >> Andrew? >> Yeah. >> Is it okay if we go back there like on the lot right back there? >> Uh preferably not just cuz again it is private property. >> Okay. >> I'm sorry. I'm just telling you guys. >> No, you're fine, man. I know you just doing your job, but we'll be out here just a few hours, man. >> Okay. I appreciate you guys. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> They coming back. >> Nice. All right. All right. Everybody's joining in. Everybody loves to know. She flipping. Oh. Middle finger, man. I said you I said you was the supervisor. >> I know. I heard I thought I thought >> they was but the the the guy was coming down. >> 911. Where's your emergency? >> Hi. I'm just calling to report. It looks like there are a couple of people um outside of the Starbucks um video governor and >> I'm sorry. Yeah. Recording. And they said that they're recording like faces and license plates to put on AI or something. >> Yeah. Unfortunately with that if they're on public roadway, they can videotape. Um but we do have an officer dispatch to check there and make sure they're not on private property. >> Okay. So they they can sit there and record. >> Um >> Okay. If if you look it up online, unfortunately they're auditors and they will purposely go into public places to try and upset people and video it and then post it online. >> Okay. And what is Do you have any idea like what the purpose is for that? >> Uh just to get a rise out of people. >> That's that's solely the only >> Yes. >> Yeah. They're called fifth amendment auditors. >> Fifth amendment auditors. >> Mhm. And they post so they they're taking video of just people random people and we'll post it online. Correct. >> Like on like social media or something. >> Um they probably most of them probably have an actual website but yeah I I don't know what specific ones. >> Um okay just just because just to like put content online of people >> correct >> makes no sense. I know. >> I agree. But we do have an officer on the way to check the area. >> All right. Okay. Thank you so much. >> No problem. Okay. Bye-bye. >> Bye-bye. >> She's calling the police. >> The driver. 911. What's address 6680 Edwardsville Crossing Drive in Edwardsville? >> 6680 at the >> Yeah, at the Starbucks. >> Okay. What's going on there? >> Um, I have these folks outside in my parking lot uh recording all of my customers and all of their license plates. Like specifically, I asked them what they were doing. Um, and they are scanning people's faces and license plates for quote AI. Um, I have asked them to leave since it is private property. Um, and they have refused. >> Are they in the parking lot? >> Uh, yes. Yes. Right on the grass right near our parking lot. >> Public area. I can have an office come by and take a look, but there's not much we can do if they're in a public area. >> Okay. All right. What they're trying to do is get you to interact with them and cause a scene. Well, I can have an office go by if you want. Are you a manager or employee? >> Yeah. Yeah, I'm the manager on duty. >> Hold on to >> Okay. What do they look like? >> Uh, there's a white male and a black male. One uh the white male is in a white t-shirt and the black male has a Steelers hat on. >> Okay. I can stand I'll go by and just take a look, but chances, you know, >> I appreciate you. >> Let me get some information real quick. Hold on. >> Okay. >> In route 948. What's your name? >> There's a good phone number for you. Okay. Okay. Yep. We'll go by and take a look. If they come inside your business, you can obviously tell them to leave if you want to. And if they don't, give us a call back. But I'm go by and just take a look at them. >> Okay. I really appreciate y'all. Sorry for bothering you. >> No problem. No, you're good. >> I don't know. You tell me. >> I don't know. You're the one. All right. down. Kansas City County Police. I bet he's turning around. the city. They did Law enforce. Good job, Edwardsville. This is actually our second time in Edwardsville. I forget the first officer, but she did uh she did a really great job, especially explaining to Starbucks that we had the right to salute to her. And the first time we was in Edwardsville, let's see how this gentleman did because the ladies are showing out right now. Our women officers are showing. Let's see if Guys can keep it up. >> There you go. He's leaving. Have a good day. >> Thank you. Look like choosing not to approach or do he want to save the walk? Maybe he'll pull up right next to us and then get out. like uh getting his steps in for the day. He should actually take advantage of that. Getting the steps in the walk actually arriving, guys. How's it going today? >> How's it going? >> How you doing today, sir? >> Good, man. So, are you guys like first auditors? >> I was just out here just recording. >> Just recording. >> I didn't speak with nobody. Well, I guess the dude did come out and speak with us. >> Okay. >> I tried to be transparent with them. I didn't know that I was going to end up with you here. >> No, you're fine. What are you guys doing today? No, they just like three or four people called from here saying they were concerned about you guys recording. I get it. Hey, first amendment. We can record in public and stuff like that. All right. They were concerned. They had other like customers calling in about it, too. And you guys are within your rights to be recording in public. However, this is technically private property right here. This whole thing is private property. My boss is coming to actually show you the easement of it. >> Yeah, we got it right here. >> Do you? Okay. >> Yeah. You want to see it? >> Sure. I'll take a look at it. Okay. What was your name and number? >> Officer Mezer. It's 168. >> Now, is this like such a such a like crazy situation, serious situation? You need to park in the middle of the exit and take up half the exit. >> I turned my back light on, man. >> And that's where And that's where we standing at. >> You're not standing right there. >> The green It's going to It's going to adjust. The green is going to adjust. >> Okay. He's going to show you he's going to show you the easement paperwork. This entire the entire part from Troy Road all the way over to Plum, all this stuff is technically private property. The road here is private property. >> Starbucks, >> huh? >> So, do it belong to Starbucks? >> This part right here does. Yes. >> No, not all the way up to the road. >> Okay, we're >> You see the crosswalks? You see the crosswalks where people walk? >> Yeah. >> Okay, guys. Like, I get what you're doing. You're just trying to get us to like I >> No, we're not. We I get it. >> We checked the grid before we got here and we our whole goal is not to stand on no one's property. That's never the intent. We try not to speak with anyone. >> This is the second place that I've got called about you guys on at the park, too. There again, that's public property for sure. And you're recording a yoga group. Were you guys out there earlier doing that from about 8 to 9:00? >> Okay. Well, they have pictures of you guys and it's clearly you guys. So, they were concerned about it, too. This like the second time we've had calls on you. So, I wanted to come out here and just talk to you guys, see what was going on. Um, he has looked this up. This this whole place is private property. Um Starbucks Starbucks does want you trespass from their property. So, >> okay, >> we have no problem. >> These guys are claiming that this is public property and that they have a right to be here. >> Can I show you the map? >> Yeah, we got the grid right here. >> So, get the map for you guys. Okay. >> So, the thing is this where we're >> like I understand what public here. >> Uh yeah, I'm not I go old school with it. Okay. So, here's our city map. Okay. >> Purple roadways are private roadways here in the city of Edwardsville. >> Okay. >> So, who owned this private roadway? >> Then tell me who owns >> I can get that. So, this right here is where you guys are at. Okay. That's a private roadway. >> Okay. This whole complex is private. We can't enforce traffic on this roadway. >> Interesting. >> So, who owns it? >> The property owner. And then they are the ones for this section right here. >> Right. But what I'm say Okay. Okay. So what what's the deal? You want you want us to stand in the median over there? No, that's private propert. Yeah, but they don't own it though. They don't it's not their bugs. It's not their call. It's not their property. That's fine. I I understand. >> But you're on private property violating They don't want you. >> All right. So, let me ask you a question. If we don't leave right here where we're standing, are you going to arrest us because you believe it's private property? >> I don't It is private property, guys. >> So, you believe it belongs to the star? >> I'm just trying to ask you guys. >> I know. I'm just trying to figure out like where the next steps are here. So, if I will call the property owner >> right now. Oh, you're going to call the property owner. See now if he want if the property who own the whole plaza if they want us to leave I have no issues with that. Okay. >> Our thing was that we not >> but you guys are you can acknowledge you're on private property. >> Okay. What's that road right there? >> You tell me. >> That's private property. That's Edwardsville Crossing where you guys are standing. Okay. This is the actual city map. I don't know what map you're using there, but that shows us all public roadways. >> So you Let me ask you a question, right? Do do you actually genuinely believe that people cannot walk freely on this road? >> If the property owner does not want you to. Yes, I do. >> Really? >> I do. Really? >> If it's private and the property who owns the whole plaza, if he don't want us on the plaza, I agree with you, man. >> Yeah, we've trespassed people from your >> trust. I mean, we would have to go. Our thing was we not on Starbucks property and Starbucks can't make us leave because >> they they can. They can. And it's no different than if you're causing issues for them on their business grounds. Okay? It's the same as we have with people at TJ Maxx or other businesses within it. They have a right to where they work and the business that they're running to say that we don't want people here because they're causing us issues. That's all I'm saying. >> Okay. So, could if we if we were standing right here and the eye care place said we got to go to the street, but they're all the way down there. Do you believe that's enforceable? >> I'm not following on that one. Sorry. If we're standing right here, but the eye care place down there >> felt uncomfortable or whatever, like was crying about cameras or something like that, would you think it would be enforceable right here? >> I would enforce that. No, >> we're right here at Starbucks on the ground. >> This belongs to them and I think they have a right to Okay, so this is where the disconnect this is where the >> All around we know I'm not a public. >> If you if you saying this whole thing is is private and the owner of the plaza say you have to leave, I agree. if it's private and the and the person that owns the plaza. But our thing was we're not on Starbucks property. >> Okay. We're splitting hairs, but that's fine if you want to. I I'll go ahead. >> Okay. If you if you can get the the person who owns the whole plaza and and I'll look it up, too. I'll give them a call. >> Yeah, it's on the tax map. We'll get a >> If you if you have it and if you don't mind giving this number, too, I would like to give them a call. >> I'm not going to give it to you guys. I'm not going to share that with you. >> I can find it. It's okay, sir. >> That's fine. >> Can I get your name badge on? >> Yeah, I'll give you a business card for your >> Yes, sir. appreciate it. >> But you guys are on private property. There's no doubt about that. I've shown that to you guys. So there's there's no debate on that. >> We can all agree. This isn't like when you guys this isn't like you guys stand on the sidewalk outside of the park. That sort of stuff is public. You guys are allowed to do that stuff when you're on public roadway. >> When you're on public roadway, we're not even going to come talk to you guys or public sidewalk. We're not going to bug you guys in any fashion. But when you do come out to private property, we kind of are required to have to come and check on you. Whoever owns the Plaza, though, if you get a hold of them and they say that, >> you know. Yeah. >> Make sure you know their name, too. >> Make sure you know for a fact. >> And we're not here to cause no like, >> oh, come on. You guys know what you're doing. >> No, but we're not here to cause any issues. >> He already I do believe that you guys are probably first amendment auditors and you're just recording in public to see if you can get a response. >> We want That's fine. That's You're right. Hey, if it's up to me, how do you pronounce that one more time? >> I would rather you just go educate them. Hey, it look like they standing on the public roadway. I did. Like if they come on to on actually on the property. >> Yeah, that's why I didn't come up and talk to you guys first. That's why Yeah, I went in there. I said you could my body camera. I went in there and said, "Hey, listen. These guys are probably first amendment auditors. They're recording from possibly a public's place." Yeah, it's all right now, man. Look. >> So, I'm like, I don't know if this is public or private yet. My boss is looking into it. He looked into it. Came out here and showed us this. I'm being 100% transparent with you guys. All right. And this entire area is private and I I believe this part of this area is probably Starbucks property. >> They got to maintain it, but you know there's no sidewalk. You got to have a public easement. >> Yeah. So like from from the area between a sidewalk and the roadway would be considered public, right? Cuz that's like the easement part of it. But I think that this is probably without a sidewalk here. >> What about that sidewalk? >> What about what about that sidewalk right there? >> Is that is that their property? Is that Verizon's property? And you don't think people can go and exercise their god-given constitutionally protected rights on that sidewalk? >> Um, on the sidewalk, this whole thing's private property. Again, like this entire spot where all these like that's private property. This is their private property. This is their private property. I think >> who owns it. >> He's calling them right now. >> So, he's hopping right on. They got it. They're protecting and serving out here. They got it. >> That This sucks. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. >> I wouldn't be out here talking to you guys if we didn't get like 10 calls about it. >> Let me ask you this. >> I don't want to be out here. calls about a first amendment auditor that you already know about. >> Yeah. Well, I figured you guys are first amendment. The first one was from a yoga teacher who felt uncomfortable by you guys recording her entire class, recording license plates and stuff. So, that's like uncomfortable. I I understand that part like and I need to talk to you guys about that. Anyways, so again, were you guys just doing the same thing out there? Just recording people. >> You're recording people doing yoga. >> Okay. It's just >> So 168. >> Yes, sir. What rights do we have in this situation that you are here to defend >> your first amendment rights? >> Freedom of speech. Freedom of speech. But this is private property. We got a lot of calls about this right now. >> Well, I hope you're really sure. >> Yeah. >> This is >> All right. What's your guys' names, by the way? >> Okay. I I figure so you've been out here for a while. I don't think any Why would your supervisor like push the issue? Well, let me call the guy. See if he don't want you guys on the property. >> Protect our first amendment right now. This department and him and me are very like conscious of first. >> I dealt with you guys before. I dealt with Edward Edward. I dealt with Edwardsville before. >> I feel like we're pretty good about like making sure people's rights aren't violated. >> The late the first I I was just trying to say I hope I hope your female officer your lady officer did an amazing job. I said let's see how this guy does this. Let's see if he tried to >> not you, but your supervisor. >> You know, you saying you didn't really get a clear understanding, so you calling somebody who supposed to have a little bit more knowledge. So, I respect you for that. I respect you for that. Not jumping on it. >> I respect you for that. >> I know how these go. I I I understand kind of what this is. And I get it. You guys have rights. We all have rights to do. >> I just want you to educate them, man. >> I get it. >> You know, >> I get it, guys. >> So, let me ask you a question. What other parts of like the First Amendment are restricted right here? Like if I was sitting here holding a Bible and they didn't feel like it, are you going to come and like tell them you got to leave? >> If you're on a business's private property and you're doing anything, it is how they don't want you there for as a private business. They can ask you to leave and request that you're trespass. So no matter what you're doing, it could be anything. If they don't want you here, fine. They're going to lose the business and it's fine with that. It's on them at the end of the day. And you guys can be upset about that and we can all we can all >> So I just want to make sure just make sure that we're under the same understanding and everybody can understand clearly without any reasonable doubt at all. So you believe right here where we are standing that this Starbucks right here that's following about us standing on this said property right here. >> I know you're going to say this is public eastment, but this is private roadway. >> Okay. So you do believe that it's private and they own they have jurisdiction over it. >> That is my belief right now. Yeah. So that's why that's why I believe is that your knowledge. >> That is my knowledge as of right now. >> Your knowledge based off what he has looked up all that other stuff. Okay. >> And what I want to say is you know even if this whole thing is private even still Starbucks don't own this. And I just don't really like that he's calling >> distinction that% his knowledge as >> what's your YouTube channel? You guys YouTube or Tik Tok or what? >> You know normally I would give it to you man but you're sergeant man. I wish he would dig that deep to fight for our rights instead of just like, "Hey, look, you got just tell them y'all need to call the the head honcho and have him call you guys." >> I know this is not your first rodeo. >> I know you do this all the time. You probably deal with cops all the time. Like, I get it. Like, I understand everything about what's going on here for the most part. All right. I think I do at least. I'm not trying to violate your rights. >> I appreciate I believe you want 168. It's your supervisor, man. >> Hey, he's he's a good guy. He's a very he's a very knowledgeable supervisor. He he dots his eyes and crosses >> because one thing I said when you first walked in, I said, "Good job, officer. You didn't approach us first. You went to go get you went to go get the facts first." >> It's because we talked about it. >> Then you waited for your supervisor, somebody who supposed to be more knowledgeable. >> But he come out with the map and uh >> Wow. I wonder who is he going to call. >> And by the way, I do have back lights on on my car right now. So I'm not just blocking the roadway. >> I appreciate you. All right. So just so we're all on camera, I'm not blocking anyone. >> I appreciate you. You doing A168? Let's see what your sergeant do though, man. >> What's your guys' goal for today? >> Just to go out here and peacefully exercise our first and hopefully have them upheld. >> That's fair. That's fair. >> Because that's the main purpose of y'all job. >> I'm a person, too. Like >> paperwork type of thing, you know, have to deal with like chilling of rights and everything like that. you know, even if there is no arrest right now, I just I just really wouldn't have to deal with that. >> But yeah, if it was up to me, I I'd love to see you guys do a good job. Educate the public now. They know. Of course, you guys are supposed to be aware the people are not educate them that they have a constitutional right to actually be there. I did. >> And I'm sure if you leave them alone >> in due time, they would keep moving along. >> Yeah. >> Did you use the word unfortunately in there? >> Unfortunately, maybe. I don't remember. Unfortunately, I do have the right to be out here doing this. So, >> it's not unfortunate. >> Well, it's great. I get it. I know it's just part of >> I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying, but you guys are causing some people to get a little freaked out by it. >> Do you really Do you really like think that's normal in 2026? >> If I was driving or parked somewhere and someone comes up like within 25 30 ft of me license plate and stuff like that, I would be concerned about it for sure. Don't you think it's reasonable for someone to call the police department about it. It's reasonable. >> If if you had two people walking down the sidewalk, right? >> I'm not going to get into hypotheticals with it. You just gave us a hypothetical, though. >> No, this is what happens. And like that's why they call that's exactly what happens. Literally what happened just now. >> That's funny. You you hypothetically told us you were recording, you know, a yoga something or other. >> That actually happened too because I was out there. I talked to >> No, that's hypothet. So like they have pictures of you guys. But ain't that funny? She called the cops on us recording and her evidence. She had to show you her recording us >> after like she says after an hour of you guys recording her that she got freaked out and decided to record back and at least take pictures. >> But we didn't say nothing to nobody. >> I know. That's the thing. It was >> Did she say that? >> No. She said you guys the entire time >> and we try not to even speak with them when they came to speak with us. Like don't say nothing because whatever we say people try to twist it that we trying to int within like 20 ft of them and was like causing concern like walking in a circle. That's why I want to get your side of the story about it. That's why I'm out here for that part of it is get your side of the story. >> That's funny. He said he didn't come out here and say anything about that. He didn't want to talk about >> that was part of it. I did. I said I want to talk to you guys about this other thing, too. The other call that I had that I just talked about. I literally said that. >> You went over there and talked to her. >> I did. Yeah. She called it in. I went to her house and talked to her. >> Wow. >> She was concerned by it. >> Like that they going to do what though? >> Well, >> what was Just let me ask you. Let me ask you Listen, I I spoke with her, too, and I said, "Hey, this is a first >> walking down the road, right? And you were standing at the end of that road >> and you saw one of the people turn around and book it the other way." >> I'm not going to answer hypothetical questions about something that doesn't have to deal with what we're dealing with. The two things that I brought up are things that have happened in the past. >> No, that's hypothetical. >> I object. >> All right. >> But yeah, I hope I just >> No conversation. >> I really hope I really just hope the sergeant actually just get it right. Me too. Where you guys from? >> Not answer that question. >> Normally I do give these things. If you would have handled this by yourself, you would have got it, man. I promise you, you would have got it. >> But with your sergeant here and he's trying everything in his power just Hey, look. Let's try to get these guys to move. >> You know, all we going to do is go on the sidewalk right there. >> Then what you going to then What are you going to do? >> That sidewalk is definitely public easement because it's on a public roadway. So I can see that. That's >> So you're telling me the to connect over here right on Edwardsville Park right here. >> Yeah, >> you are not from those crosswalks. >> It's you can exercise your first amendment rights here. >> This is literally private property. >> It is okay. >> I'm sorry. I don't want to >> It would have showed up on the on the grid. >> No, no, no. It's okay. He know he knows. Now he's >> I've done plazas before and it tell you who owned the whole plaza. >> This is why I've just been asking him time and time and time again just to make sure that we are 100%. This is so sectioned off everything that what owns what. You can just take a look at it. That's PNC. That's 54th Street. That's Best Buy. And this little bitty square right there is Starbucks. Let's see what he say right here. I really want him to get it right. >> My business card, case number property owner wants you trespass from the facilities. If you guys are not going to partake in business services of any kind, they do not want you standing out here loitering and bothering the customers. We need your ID so we can issue guys trespass warnings. >> I'm not going to do that. >> You just didn't tell us if they didn't want us here and we leave. I didn't Nobody never even told us that. >> You guys are getting trespass from the property. >> Oh, okay. Perfect. So, you're giving us a trespass warning then? >> Yeah. We have to know if you >> Oh, okay. All right. >> We'll leave. >> Is there anything else you guys are going to leave? >> Yeah. >> Is there anything else if you said that and we just leave? We just want to make your your body cam was rolling that whole time or did you shut it off? No, >> it was rolling. >> I have phone call. I'm going to write a police report on it documenting everything. The case numbers on the back. You're welcome to foy which will show we made contact with the property in order. >> All right. So guys, anything in here? It's all private property. >> Sweet. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Well, now that we got everything squared away, thank you guys for locking it in. >> Nice guy, too. Real nice guy. He already got his. >> Nice. Oh. >> Oh, okay. Oh, good. >> Am I going to end up >> Don't learn from the sergeant on that one. Be a nice guy. Keep being like that. Okay. That's better. That's better. >> Go this way. >> This was all pirate properties. >> I know. I'm going over there. And and one more thing, Sergeant. He said if we're not buying nothing, right? So we can go to the store and buy something, right? >> That's what he said. You guys actually purchase are using fac. >> Yep. You have a good day. >> They run you off over there. >> They just called the police. They said that they said the whole plaza is private property and the owner said that we're being trespassed. >> Oh my goodness. Like I watch I watch you all the time, man. >> I appreciate it. Good to see you, man. Nice to meet you. Yeah, buddy. Hey, buddy. Take it easy, guys. >> Take it easy. Yes, sir. Yeah, buddy. That's the second