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EXPOSING LIES & BAD TYRANTS LIKE A PRO!!! EUGENE, OR FIRST AMENDMENT

You didn't indicate that it was an ADA requirement at the beginning, so I can >> It's written in the law. You're supposed to know. You're the public affairs manager. >> I have I have a question. You're obligate You're obligated to answer this. Was your body cam Yeah, you are. Was your body cam on? I'm going to request it. >> So, I don't care, and that's a good speech, but that's just where we're at for today. >> No, I don't care what you say. That's not where we're at. I want to file a complaint against you. >> You You can do that. >> You're trespassing me for my constitutional right cuz they're uncomfortable with my first amendment right. >> We're potentially investigating a crime, and I can detain you. >> What's going on, Bay Fam? It's your boy, Bay Area Transparency. We're back at it once again. For this video, we're in the city of Eugene, Oregon. We expose a lying security guard. We expose foul, nasty, rude behavior from public employees. We expose cops for violating my rights and trespassing me. We educate you on the laws regarding being trespassed from a public building, especially in Oregon, where they think they have the right to do so. Remember, these videos are always unscripted and posted in chronological order. Don't let the employees say it didn't happen like that because that video's heavily edited because that's not true, and we always keep the full unedited version in case we have to prove they're lying. Follow us on Facebook, Bay Area Transparency Official. Follow us on Instagram, @bayareatransparency. Subscribe, like, and share, baby. BAT, let's get to it. >> 118. Um so, anyways, I'll just keep saying it. We're recording. I've got to get these videos recorded right here. Get everything recorded. >> Sir, I don't think you're supposed to be >> Make sure I record everything. >> Come again? >> I don't think you're supposed to be recording inside those offices. >> Well, I was getting a picture of the suite number, but I Yeah, I'm not going in there. >> All right, I'll just say that. Just curious if you had any questions or >> No. No, no, I'm good. Get this recorded right here. >> This can't take the stairs, but you should be able to take this one. Let's get these pictures right here. So, this is just your typical conference room here. Let's go straight all the way to the left and then all the way to the right and then pan. Pan shot. Nice and steady. >> you doing today? >> Come again? >> What are you doing today? >> Uh just what you see, man. Recording. How you doing? >> Uh yeah, I'm just working on something. >> Okay. Well, uh as far as what I've been told by my contacts for the building >> Stop cuz I got This one is right. >> You're not supposed to have anybody on the second or the third floor unless you have business with one of the offices. >> Well, I do Yeah, I have business. There's offices up here that you can't access down there. >> Yes, but >> Right. Yeah. >> you have to have the business for that. Like are you here for the early childhood care facility? Whatever that >> No, there's other There's other information that I'm going to get. Yeah. But yeah, I have business there. >> Okay. >> I was curious about that cuz it says the stairs right there. It says no staff only. You can't use the stairs, but you can use the elevator. >> So, what it is is this is a closed office building. Everybody comes and meets in the public center, and then that's how they run things. That's just how I was told it. So, they don't want anybody coming up to the second or the third floor. >> But you have access through the elevator. >> For like the prosecutor's office or the early childhood >> Right. So, it's not technically everybody that cuz they don't go down there, right? Cuz I've been here before you go up here. >> I I understand that. I'm saying for those ones. >> Well, no no no, so beyond that, right? I'm just I'm establishing that and then I was looking at the the stairs. So, for instance, and if if an emergency happens right now, we have an earthquake or fire or some of that nature, the elevator is not where I want to take to get out of here. I want to take the stairs. >> Well, that's an emergency and the emergency exit is actually through that direction, not taking those stairs. >> Right, but it says say for >> Right. >> Right, but it says staff only. So, say for instance, I what I'm setting up and this is beyond you, right? And I'll set this up later with the administration here is that in an emergency situation, say I say, "Oh [ __ ] I can't take those stairs because I'm dumb and I care, right?" And I I try to run over here and take the elevator, get to these, and then I get hurt, something falls on me, the the building owners, if this isn't owned by the city or county, are liable or the city or county is liable and or probably >> Well, that's why there's the emergency exit on that corner. There's the emergency exit on that corner as well. >> So, you can take those stairs, you just can't take these stairs. >> not what I'm saying. I'm saying coming up, like why would you be up on the second or the third floor if you did not have business up here in the first place? >> Well, that's not the scenario. The scenario is somebody's up here, right? And they have business. Like me, I have business up here and I'm up here. >> I understand. >> So, there's an emergency situation and I can't take those stairs, right? It it could cause an an issue, right? >> I understand that, but I'm going off of what I was told by my contact for this building. >> Well, right. That and that's why I said it's above you. I'll deal with it with the building administration. It's just something to think about when somebody's using those stairs, when we block stairs off to people in one of our public buildings and an emergency happens and they get hurt, the people are liable for that. >> Again, customers of the building should not be on the second or the third floor because everybody from those offices will come meet them in the ground floor of the center and that's where they do business. They don't bring anybody into the offices for the planning and development for you know that conference room unless they have authorization for that conference but for whichever one this one is. >> Right, but there's offices up here that you do come up here for this office. >> But you don't they don't come up to these offices. They go to the a hold of whoever's in whatever office and then they come and meet in the ground floor at the center where all the tables and everybody's at. >> So they do this they do their private business down there. >> It's not my decision on that. I >> I'm asking is that what that's what happens? >> That's how they work. That's how they do things is they have everybody meet in the ground area so that way any confidential stuff that is not pertaining to that specific person. I don't know. I'm assuming that's how they keep it separate but what they do is they bring everybody down to meet in the ground floor. They don't have anybody coming up here unless they have a exact reason of you're going to the city prosecutors, you're going to the early childhood one. Those are the two that I see people mainly go to. >> Right, so people come up here for those we established that which makes it open to everybody to the public. >> Okay. >> Legally just and that's probably why there's not a staff only sign on the elevator cuz there would be a sign saying you couldn't come up here. I looked for it recorded it there's nothing so obviously I can use it and come up and I purposely skipped the second floor cuz I seen the only office that I'm interested in on two is a restricted access and you deal with them downstairs. So that's why I skipped two. So I don't need anything on two but I do need some stuff up here. >> Okay. So awesome. Okay, continue what I was doing here. Let's do a pan sweep conference room continue recording here. >> My battery died. Yes. So I'm being followed for no reason. Scary camera, I guess. Scary, scary, scary. Works administration office hours. When the door is locked, please ring the doorbell. So this is where we would go to get records, ask for records here. All right, let's see if we can't get our public records questions answered and are they closed? Oh, okay, let's ring the doorbell. We need to get our public records questions answered and get all that stuff, maybe get a card for contact information. >> Hello. >> Hello. I want to get some records from you guys and a contact card. >> A records on a contact card? >> No, records and a contact card. Are you going to get me a >> No, I'm just I can handle it. What's up? >> Okay. Everybody's happening to be coming out at the same time. >> Get records and a contact card for you guys. >> Okay, what kind of records? >> Public public records. >> Uh like about a property or anything like that? >> No, it's going to be more employee information, contact information for the office. >> For this specific office? >> Correct. >> Okay. Um let's see. Uh you could do a public records request to get that information. That would be the regular rate. Okay. Yep. Um can we grab a card? >> So what's what what is weird is you guys can see right here there is a Um, you kind of can't see it cuz the glare, but there's a help desk right here. There it is. Help desk for you to get help. And for some reason they're keeping it closed instead of just >> for us. >> Thank you. >> We got There's our website at the bottom, too. >> Perfect. >> Yep. >> And it's part of it. >> So, if you go to the City of Eugene website, there's a little uh you know, magnifying glass where you can search a search field. You just do public records request and you It brings >> I just want to do it in person. Yeah, I'm here now. >> it in person. It's already It's all It's all online. We have to do it. There's a tracking process. >> of the law that you can do it in person, public records law. Oregon Public Records Act is pretty clear in person. >> what you want to know about in advance and be able to gather the information, we wouldn't be able to provide it to you. >> have the time allotted, but that's why you ask. You bring out a pen and paper. I tell you what I need, you take it back, you start the the process. >> Well, our process is an online process. >> Well, the law is >> If you feel like you're breaking If you feel like [laughter] we're breaking the law, then you can take that up in a different way, but our process is an online process. >> I could I could I could I could I could I could I could do that. >> Sure. Let me get you my business card. >> Perfect. Okay. So, unfortunately, now the City of Eugene has been open to exposed to a lawsuit, which is stupid. It's the dumbest thing when we have people that don't understand the way the laws actually work and don't want to do their job. And then it opens up our money, our tax dollars, like not going to affect her at all personally. Um, so we will file a complaint and make them do it the right way from now on. >> Okay. Don't worry, we'll be back. >> Thanks for your help. >> Yep. Okay. So, now, effectively at this point, it is the dumbest thing in the world, right? You have people who don't know the law, they don't know what they're doing, don't know what they're talking about, yet they're in the position of public affairs manager. So, she is the public affairs manager and does not understand the Oregon Public Information Act or Public Records Act. Here we go. Oh, coming out. >> Our website has an online form, which I printed for you and be happy to hand it to you right now. >> I'm trying to do it verbally, right? So, you're incorrect. So, she went and looked it up, realized she's wrong. And now she's saying, "Oh, yeah, we'll we'll give you the form." No, trying to do this verbally. That's the whole point. I don't have my reading glasses. >> This is the process >> trying to do it verbally. >> my sentence, please? >> I don't I just don't need >> This is the process that we are trying to help you [clears throat] with. So, you can either do it this way or you can not. >> reasonable accommodation under the ADA. I'm doing it verbally. It's written into the law. I can't do that verbally if you just hand me a form. >> Okay, you didn't indicate that it was an ADA requirement at the beginning, so I >> It's written in the law. You're supposed to know. You're the public affairs manager. You just clearly came out and said, "I ain't doing it. Go ahead and do what you're going to do." >> No, I told you what the resource is. >> That's exactly what you did. So, I need to do it verbally. I need to do it verbally. I'm going to do it verbally. >> recorder's office. It's at city hall. If you'd like to go in and do that, you can do that there. >> Why would I file at city hall with you guys? >> recorder office is and that's where the records are kept. >> So, okay, apparently you don't understand the law like that. So, >> I've answered your question. >> Thank you. >> So, but I'm telling you you're wrong again. This lady is a She's just a [ __ ] Holy [ __ ] You're wrong. I'm doing it verbally. The law says I can do it at the office that is the record holding office, which this would be because it's their information. And the onus would be on them if their process is to send it to the recorder's office. That process would be on them. It's not on me to do. So, again she's wrong and she just doesn't understand that but that's why it's important to fully understand the laws. You guys are you still following me and he's on the phone again. He's been on the phone like 20 times. Let's get a thing from them. We'll get a card from the prosecutor's office. I'm also going to head to the whatchamacallit office today. >> Hi, can I help? >> Should I get a contact card from you guys? Got a business card? >> For the city prosecutor's office? >> Yes. >> Do you have someone specific? >> Any that are available would be good. >> Okay, we'll see what we >> several that will that will work. >> Well, not everybody has business cards cuz some are new. So I'm asking just a general center >> Just any you have access to. Yeah, yeah. Don't make it too hard. All right, let's make sure we record all that, record this. Thank you, appreciate it. Is it Well, this was the only one available? >> That's the boss of everybody here. >> Oh, main one. Okay, cool. That works. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Appreciate it. Oh, here are two more, two more. Two more here. This is near empty too. You guys keep this. Sir, you need to move so she can get into that office. Oh, you going in here? Just getting some recordings. You have to send the video and audio. What uh office is this? What do you do? >> You do not have to answer. >> That's not true. She She She works for the public. You just gave her the worst [ __ ] advice you could. Her name and all that, she does have to answer. >> Does it say anything there on public that you can see? >> It It matter. They work for Yeah, it says regime. They work for the public. And so when I asked them, they should do their job and shine and not be a piece of [ __ ] like you just told her to be. Right? Which shows where you're at. >> Trash. >> So, this is This is the problem. What was that? Oh, you're recording, too? Awesome. Make Make sure you keep that cuz I'm going to request a copy of it before I get up out of here, all right? So, this is a security Does it say she will security enforcement? So, he's been recording. I I seen him taking pictures earlier. I just didn't have a chance to tell him. I just gave you what's called a litigation hold. If you destroy that, it is actually a crime. So, I'm going to request a copy of it, so don't destroy it. You have to turn it in as a public as a public document. >> This is the work phone that's provided for the company. So, I'm not touching anything. I'm just recording it. >> You just gave that lady the worst advice. You told somebody who works for us and gets paid by us that she doesn't have to talk to us. And you have no clue what you're talking about. Why they would listen to a security guard, I have no That was the dumbest [ __ ] that you could have told them. But it's all good. I got till what, 4:00 or 5:00 today? I will be in here. But we always got to get it all recorded, right? Because people wouldn't believe if we didn't record it like I am right now. People wouldn't believe that it's happening. >> Well, they said the security guys at the atrium said that you were in an off-limits area there and they asked you to leave and you wouldn't leave. So, I'm here to talk to you about that. And that's uh trespassing. >> Can you repeat that? Cuz I didn't hear you. >> Yeah. Do you have any ID on you? >> Well, I I didn't hear what you said, dude. >> Okay, I didn't hear what you said. Say it again. So, I'm talking to you about trespassing at the atrium. The security guard said that you were in a staff only area and wouldn't leave. They said you were there for an hour filming the insides of the offices and stuff. >> Well, that's not true cuz I got help up there. >> Okay. Where at? >> not a staff area. >> Okay. I'm going by what he said. >> had conversation with them. He He very clearly said it's open to the public. So, I don't know why they told you that. >> Okay, that that's not what he told me. He He told us there He said that he asked you to leave and you were there for an hour after he asked you to leave. >> I'm not supposed to have anybody on the second and third floor unless you have business with one of the offices. >> Well, I do Yeah, I have business. >> There's offices up here that you can't access down there. >> Yes, but >> Right. Yeah. >> you have to have the business for that. Like are you here for here for their early childhood care facility? >> No, there's other There's other information that I'm going to get. Yeah. But yeah, I have business there. >> Okay. >> He even you were there for an hour after he asked you to leave. >> Well, that's not true, either. >> Okay. >> And I got it on camera. So, I don't know what to tell you. >> Okay. Well, uh Do you have any ID on you? >> Yeah, I do. >> Okay. Do you mind if I look at it? >> Uh yeah, I do. >> Okay. What's your last name? >> Well, I don't know how that works. Do I have to give you my name? >> Well, I'm investigating a trespassing right now. >> Not really, but yeah, okay. Did Did you see me there? >> What's that? >> Did you see me there? >> No, but the security guy saw you there. >> So, you So, they could say anything and you come investigating? >> I have to investigate and see what's going on. That's how investigating crimes work. What's your name, man? I'm not I >> Again, do I have Do I have to give it to you or what? >> Well, right now I'm investigating a trespass and it's an arrestable offense. It's a crime. I'd prefer to not arrest you for that today. I'd just ID you and say that I gave you a warning for trespassing on your way. >> Well, there's no warning needed. I have it on video and and I can be in a public area. Can I Where did they Where did they tell you where I was at that was a non-public area? >> They said if you went past the signs that said staff only. I wasn't there, so I'm going by what he told you. >> What a piece of sh- What a liar. Well, I have it on video. >> Okay. >> And I can show it. So, the the elevator does not say staff only. There's only stairs there that say staff only. And I even spoke with them and said, "Hey, why do those stairs say staff only when we there's offices up here we come get help at?" And he said, "Well, it's because nobody gets help really on the second floor. And but there's stairs here you can go down in an emergency. We're talking about emergency situations." I then proceeded to try to get public records and cards which I have right here from the um staff at the public works office which is up there and and open to us to be at. And it clearly says right on their sign, "Open Monday through Friday. Open till 5:00." Look at the door's locked. Ring the bell. So, that's not a staff area. I don't care what he told you. It doesn't matter. He can say anything he wants, but that's just not the way the legalities of it work. Now, back to it. Do I have to give you my ID? Yeah, I would. >> Like I said, if I'm going to investigate something, I'm hearing both sides. So, I'll go ahead and get the full story and get it out. >> Well, I mean it doesn't matter what he says. Right? You should have looked Did you go over there? >> I was over there. >> Did you look? >> Like inside the building? >> Did you look at the elevator? You didn't look inside the building? Okay, well >> He's the He's the security guy there. Like that's his area. I don't work there. >> I know, but it doesn't mean he's telling you the truth, right? >> Okay, I'll tell you what. I will take your word for it that you did not mean to go anywhere that you weren't supposed to be. Just Next time Next time if they ask you >> go anywhere that I was not I'm going to go back over there right now. I'm going to go back right back up to that area. >> Okay, but if it's an area that says staff only, don't go there. That's all I'm asking, okay? >> And I I wouldn't do that. Totally agree. I don't go to areas I can't be in, but I know very well the way the law works and I know that I don't have to give you my ID. I'm just trying to explain it to you. What's your name and badge number? >> Willis, 396. Have a good day. >> about you? >> Gross, 616. >> Okay. Yeah, you're dismissed. Just like I thought. >> All right. Have a good day. >> Whatever. The dude comes up first thing and is like, "So, you were here I'm investigating a trespass. Give me your ID." Uh no, scoff. Like, I'm not giving you [ __ ] That's crazy. Why would he even say that? Why would he even do that? And then the the uh the uh the um security guard very clearly lied and said he told me not to be there. Well, he never asked me to leave and it is a very very um Oh, I got to ask him a question real quick. Willis, I have I have a question. You're obligat- You're obligated to answer this. Was your body cam Yeah, you are. You Was your body cam on? I'm going to request it. Oh, you're a piece of [ __ ] Bye-bye, little baby. Okay, Bay Fam, let's go ahead and stop that right there real quick and let's look at the Eugene Police Department Policy Manual. Let's look at section 103.5.8 section A. Employees shall, on all occasion in the performance of their duties or after identifying themselves as an employee of the Eugene Police Department, be respectful, be courteous, and considerate towards the public. That what he just did, telling me I don't have to answer your questions, walking away from me like he did when he realized that I knew what I was talking about and he wasn't going to be able to bully me out of my ID or in any other way, shape, or form. So, he stormed off right in the middle of me trying to provide him information. Then he rolled down his window and told me, "I don't have to answer your questions." Rolled up his window and drove away. Not respectful, not courteous. That ruins the reputation of the Eugene Police Department. Now, let's look at the body worn camera. He said, "I don't have to answer your questions." Well, this is their policy regarding advising people that they are being recorded. Section 1203.5. Pursuant to ORS 165.540 subsection 1 subsection C, officers are required to provide notice of the recording of voices and visual images are being made as soon as practicable. This advice should be recorded when possible. The only exception is when recording is at a public meeting or rally, which we were not. We were in public, it wasn't a public meeting or rally. You heard the beginning of the conversation right when he walked up and you heard the end of it. And I asked him, "Was your body camera on?" And he said, "I don't have to answer your questions." and drove away. As well as storming off when I was talking to him. So, right here, a quick check to their policy manual shows that he violated their policy. He was not respectful, he was not courteous, and then he did not inform me that he was recording and just drove away. He's supposed to tell me whether he is or not so I can know to ask for that. I could have also asked for a CAD number, other things that he was supposed to try to give me. Instead, he didn't let me ask any questions. He rolled his window down, said, "I don't have to answer your questions." rolled it up, and drove away. This shows very clearly that to them their policy and these things it sounds good on paper, but they do not follow it. They're not going to follow it. It's just something that they say they follow, that they put out to the public to make themselves look good. But these aren't good people. These aren't good cops. They don't respect us. They don't understand they work for us. They feel they have authority over everyone, and if they don't like what you're doing, they're going to treat you like crap like they just did me. Now, let's see what happens when we go back to the building cuz you know that's what I'm going to do. >> Straight up >> So, I'm trying to ask him if his body cam was on so I could request the body cam and see what the guy actually told him. And he just spins off. So, now, what do we do? Now, we go back over there. So, he clearly lied to the to the cops. There he is he's he's already on the phone. Clearly lied to the police. I'm documenting this in case they try to or or or want to try to arrest me for something I didn't do. This is the only area that says staff only. I did not go up here. Besides these doors and stuff, and I did not go up to to these doors at all either. Well, we heard you lied to the police, man. We got to document that now. So, this is the elevator we took. Clearly nothing in here that says um staff only unless they put it now, but I have videos of it. So, nothing nothing in here, right? And we're documenting this. Um and he did not tell me I'm going to open this back up cuz I'm going to stay in here until they're going to be here to put the plate. Um as you can see, nothing there. Open. And nothing here. And nothing on the door. Let's look. And nothing on the door. I need to document this cuz this is a serious issue when you're lying to police. Are you his supervisor? >> I am. >> Oh, cool. So, are you guys a private security company or are you publicly owned by the city or county? Uh he took some video. You guys are working for a public agency, right? Public offices. >> We are As far as I'm tracking, we're private third party security. >> Okay. So, I might be able to get it Oh, not him. It was somebody else. So, I might be able to get this through um I wonder how I'd get it. So, he was recording and taking pictures when he did that cuz you guys are working for a public entity, you guys he made a public record, right? I want to request that. I don't know exactly how I request that. Is it through you guys? Is it through the city? Is it through >> I So, I'll start off by saying that as far as I understand it is a private record, but you are always welcome to request it. You can contact the company directly, speak with our management, and we can go from there. >> Oh, you actually have the name. So, it's DPI Security. I See, I didn't see the name on his his thing. Um, okay. Yeah, no, it's definitely public cuz he made it for his job while working for a public entity. Um, so, it's definitely public. I already gave him what's called a litigation hold and said, "Don't erase that. Destroy it. It's a misdemeanor crime. I am going to request it." So, if you guys are contracted through the city, I'm assuming. Um I wonder if I can get that from the DA. No, it'd probably be through city hall. So, I'll I'll request it through city hall. >> Okay. >> And then they'll either direct me somewhere else or whatever. But, I got Somebody here was lying cuz I just contacted the the cops and they told the police I went in the staff area only. Um, and uh all kind of other stuff. So, now I'm documenting the areas I went in that clearly aren't staff areas. Um, and trying to figure out how I get that record as well as um some other things. So. >> Okay. >> Hello. >> Hi. >> How would I um request public records from you guys? I'm recording everything. Just so you know. I mean, it's apparent, but >> Um public records requests. >> Yeah, pretty sure. >> All right. Okay. Okay, so that's going to be everything all together, but also pre-1998 records. >> Okay. >> And then this will show you any records um after 1998. >> take a picture? I'm going to take these with us. >> Oh, go for it. >> All right, so that's pre pre-1998 and this is everything after. >> Yes, so this one's available like online now if you scan it with your phone, the other one is the official process to rent a car. >> Got you. Can I borrow your pen real quick? Yeah. And so you guys are reception for building and planning development only, right? >> Building and permit services, yeah. >> And so you're not for the whole building. So if we needed like public works and other stuff like that, we would not deal with you guys. >> Uh if you need public works administration, yes, you would have to go through them separately. >> We got to go through them separately. Okay, that's what I thought. So this one's pre Let's check this out. Let's Let's listen to these lies. The lies are important, ladies and gentlemen. Is he the one that lied? No, it's probably the other guy that lied. No lie. No more lies. He's done with the lies. Okay, so BPI just received a file and records request from Oh, we're going to have There comes the lies. That's what I wanted to record. Yeah, of course. How's it going? How's it going, man? >> Good. You're not going to follow right up behind my officer, okay? >> Oh, I'm not going to get behind him. I'm just going to get close enough to to listen to him. >> enough. >> Is there a Is there a law that says I can't be >> I told you you're not going to be interfering with my officer while you try >> I'm I'm definitely not. I'm just going to record it. Yeah. You don't need to block me. What was your name and badge numbers? >> I'm Lieutenant Ware, badge 634. >> Okay. Yeah, I'm definitely not going to interfere. I agree with that. No need to interfere, but I do want to record it. So. Okay. Yeah, I can't say anything, sir. Okay. So, for the city you are trespassed from the building for 72 hours. >> So, I have to stay out here? >> Okay. >> How how am I being trespassed? >> They're saying you cannot come back here for 72 hours. They said you made the end of the workplace feel uncomfortable, so you can't be here. >> Well, that's not how that works. >> It is. Okay. >> Oh, you better look up State of Oregon versus Murphy. You can't trespass me because I have a First Amendment right. Very clear. In Oregon, we can trespass from public property, but not because somebody's exercising a constitutionally protected activity. >> That's not why they're trespassing you. You're skipping over the part where I said you were making people in there feel uncomfortable. You were you were disturbing the workplace. >> Well, that's Fordice versus Seattle. That's that's a Ninth Circuit case which deals with Oregon. >> It sounds to me like you can talk to an attorney. >> I don't need to talk to an attorney. I'm going to go talk to your sergeant or your captain and and and whoever's above this guy cuz you're completely wrong. You don't get to trespass me from public property simply because somebody feels uncomfortable. >> Okay. >> What if I had a shirt on that said [ __ ] the police and they said, "Oh, we feel uncomfortable. He can't be in there." You don't trespass people for First Amendment right. >> Yeah, so I don't care and that's a good speech, but that's just where we're at for today. >> Okay, Bay Fam. Let's go ahead and stop that right there after that extremely rude cop says that to me. You see he is very comfortable with violating my constitutional rights. He does not care. They told you to leave. That's where we're at for today or we're going to arrest you because I'm an authoritarian and you must bow down to me and lick my boots or else I'm going to use the powers of the government and all my buddies with badges and guns who can legally eliminate your contract, read between the lines, if you don't want to listen to us and you want to argue. Now, I said that in Oregon, they could trespass you from public property and a lot of people are going to be like, "What, BAT? You never say that. What's going on with that?" Well, if you read the Oregon trespass laws and the definitions of premises, it explicitly covers public or private property, which is extremely crazy to me. They have a trespass law that at its face, the police can look at and say, "They asked you to leave, I can go ahead and arrest you and violate your rights if you don't leave." However, if you look at the many appellate cases that have already ruled on this issue in this area and in the 9th Circuit, you will notice that no, they do not have a right to just trespass you for whatever reason they want. In the case that I stated, State of Oregon versus Murphy, it was an individual who was sleeping in a post office for like 6 months and then when they asked him to leave several times, apparently, allegedly, he was convicted of it, he threatened to kill some of the staff there. They went ahead and found him guilty of trespass, but what the court said was he failed to show where his constitutional rights or his protected interest would be violated because of this trespass. You don't have the right to just go sleep in a post office. You do have the right to use your first amendment. Now, I'm going to read you a little passage out of that case because I read that case from front to back. On appeal, we rejected the argument that the notice violated his procedural due process rights because the defendant failed to identify a constitutionally protected interest that is affected by the notice. They're talking about the trespass notice. We explained that although the university is publicly owned, the public does not have unlimited access to its campus. Moreover, universities serve an educational mission and must foster an environment which furthers that mission. Accordingly, while universities by no means have unlimited discretion to exclude members of the public, I'm paraphrasing, they may reasonably regulate the conduct of non-students on campus whose conduct is not otherwise protected by the Constitution. And they're discussing Souders, I'm probably going to murder that name, S O U D E R versus Lucero, 196 F.3d 1040, 1044, 9th Circuit 1999. And that is discussed in the Murphy case I'm talking about. So, all these cases basically say public property cannot exclude you for exercising your constitutionally protected rights. And I gave these cops the case law and this is not going to end right here. We are going to speak more and more. And you're going to hear the lieutenant say, "Why don't you just take the win? You can't come back for 3 days." That's not a win, officer. A win is you protecting my constitutional rights, you doing what you took an oath to do. Stop protecting the people that you work with, other city employees or county employees, other government workers, and start protecting the people that you took an oath to protect their constitutional rights. You guys messed up right here and I'm exposing you. Two bad cops, a bad security guard who's a complete liar, and we have now proved it on this video. Areas that I was allowed to go in and they have clearly said they're not trespassing you cuz your constitutional right, they're trespassing you cuz you made them uncomfortable. Yeah, my constitutional right made them uncomfortable. Me being in public areas recording made them uncomfortable. Asking for public records made them uncomfortable. And I don't give a damn how uncomfortable they are about my constitutional rights. Let's get back to it. >> No, I don't care what you say. That's not where we're at. >> I want to file a complaint against you. I'd like to do that. >> do that. >> And is your body cam on? >> Yes. >> Was it on the first time you came here? >> Sure was. The auditor's office would be the one to talk to about a complaint against me. >> Oh, don't worry. Yeah, we're going to we're going to we're going to get there. But you don't get to trespass people for their First Amendment right. All right. Fordyce versus Seattle, their feelings don't trump my constitutional rights. I'm in here doing a story. I'm also getting information on how to get public records and all kind of other things. And you essentially just took my right to do all that, which is a constitutionally protected activity. Just because somebody said they're uncomfortable, we don't want them here. Fordice versus Seattle covers us, a 1995 case. It sounds like you need to talk to a [ __ ] attorney and go back to police school or learn get catch up on the laws. So, you're his supervisor, correct? >> Yes, sir. >> And you're going to allow him to trespass me because of my constitutionally protected right? >> Why? >> Because you were asked not to be back. >> Nobody asked me not to be back. I have it on camera. Nobody even asked me to leave. I have that on camera, too. >> Okay, so when you were here the [laughter] first time, what did they tell you? >> Nothing. >> They didn't tell you that? >> They told him he couldn't be on the second floor. They told him to leave and he stayed for a >> And I never went on the second floor. Not once. >> Can I correct myself here? I said second and third floor. >> Right. And I just spoke with the reception down there and the administration office to public works, who has an open office on the third floor. So does the district attorney's office, where I got cards from and other information. I tried to do a public records request. These are all rights. They're an open public office. It doesn't matter what this says because he doesn't know his job. The only if you look in there, the only area that says staff only is the stairs that you goes up to the second. I made it very clear with him and he also said, "Yeah, people can come up here and and they go to these offices and conduct business." And I said, "Yes, I have business up here. I'm going to get records and some other stuff. Right now I'm taking pictures." And that was the end of our conversation. He stood there and record. You don't get to tread They are trespassing me for my constitutional rights and you don't get to to enforce that. Or you can and then we'll just attach myself to your pension and your lieutenant's pension. I don't care. It wouldn't be my first time. So, make a decision and put your qualified immunity online cuz I'm telling you all this and I'm just going to be very honest and him because I am peeling your qualified immunity away like an onion layer by layer. >> Okay. >> I'm giving you the laws that that oversee what you said and I'm telling you the areas and I'm telling you the offices I went to. You are very informed at this point. >> This dude's a piece of [ __ ] This cop right here, he's a >> Uh you're trespassed from this city property because you made people feel uncomfortable. >> That's what they said. They should have just been honest with them. Hey, yeah, he went to a couple offices. He He He had a right to go to those offices. He got some information from them. They do have a bill, you know, to um get uh get information, XYZ. So, he should have just He should have just been honest with them. You know what I mean? So, we look into it. Gentlemen, we look into it. >> You have a good day. >> If I'm trespassed, I need to know where I'm trespassed from. You said I'm trespassed, so I need a formal trespass so I can file a complaint with your chief. You can go talk to him. >> You were asked to stay out of this building for 72 hours. >> Oh, so I'm trespassed. Okay, give me a formal trespass on paper then. >> We don't have it on paper. >> So, you're trespassing me for my for my First Amendment right. >> yourself to this officer, and then we'll give you >> There's nothing in the trespass code about identifying. You can just give me a a trespass. You're You're You're >> How do we know who you are? >> You're trespassing me for my constitutional right cuz they're uncomfortable with my First Amendment right. >> we're potentially investigating a crime, and I can detain you till we identify you. You want to do that? >> You You could detain me. You could identify I don't have to identify though. I wouldn't be hard to figure out who I am. I'll tell you that much. >> So, why don't you just take the win and not go in the building for 72 >> not a win. The win is you Sir, listen. I'd rather highlight you guys than you guys look bad. The win is you telling them, "Hey, he has offices Sir, listen. He has offices up there he can go to. He went to offices he has a right to go to. You guys don't get to trust We can't enforce a trespass cuz you're uncomfortable. We can only enforce a trespass State versus Murphy says, if it doesn't violate my constitutionally protected activity, you can enforce a trespass. That's the win. All right, he just told him to go and if I go back in, arrest me. Okay, we're going to go talk to your chief about you. And you, buddy. All right, this is trash, man. This is exactly why we needed to do this stuff here. So So this dude's enforcing an ill And I need to know where I'm trespassed from. What property? This property, that property, 20 properties? What properties? Yeah, I'm asking legitimate questions and you're not doing your job, sir. What properties are you formally trespassing me from, cop? Mr. Tyrant, I am speaking with you. What property am I trespassed from? Five properties? 10 properties? This property? Which one? So this is what it takes. Like this is how unprofessional this dude is. He's just running away. He just illegally trespassed me from a public property, told me to take the win or we're going to identify you. I don't give a [ __ ] about identifying me. I I don't care. So what property am I trespassed from? You got to tell me. I don't know where not to go. >> You're trespassed from the atrium, 99 West End. >> Okay. Hey, I'm going to be down there talking to your chief right now. We're going to get this overturned. You're a tyrant and you need to go, baby.