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First Amendment auditors documented a police patrol car left unlocked with a weapon visible inside, prompting them to file a complaint. They also recounted an earlier incident where an officer allegedly pushed them back and told them to "get a job" during a traffic stop. The auditors sought to file formal complaints and obtain public records regarding both incidents.
Why it may matter: This content is relevant to the research theme as it documents interactions between First Amendment auditors and law enforcement, focusing on allegations of unsecured weapons and potential misconduct during a traffic stop. It highlights the auditors' efforts to hold law enforcement accountable through formal complaints and public records requests, reflecting common themes in government transparency and civil liberties advocacy.
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that we're going to this car is that unlocked. Cuz Fords drop all the way in. This is You know what? Sitting there. Hey, come here. Need to find a similar model. Is that car unlocked? >> I don't know. >> Yeah. See how this one's dropped all the way in? Can you guys see that? See how the lock is dropped? I think that pull the handle. See if it's unlocked. >> And look what's in the passenger. Yeah. Come look at another one. They go Fords go all the way down in when they're locked. >> I'm telling you. Come look at this one. See how it's all the way down in? It's not sticking up a half inch. I'm telling you, that thing's unlocked over there. >> Yeah. There is a difference. >> Go look what's in the passenger seat. >> There is a difference. >> Yeah. Go. Look in the passenger seat. >> Yeah, it's loaded. >> No, look in the passenger seat. You did? >> I don't know how you can tell if it's loaded, but >> what is it? I almost want to just wait here until they come out. Just call them out on it so we can watch it happen when it goes open. >> Well, we'll go and look and see if it changes. It's the easiest way to do it. >> That's what I do. I go back and look afterwards. Thanks everybody for hitting that thumbs up. >> Huh? Are they cops? >> Maybe. I don't know. >> They didn't look like it. >> Hey, do you guys know who car that is right there? >> Which one? This one. >> This white patrol car. 151. >> I don't know. >> It looks like it's unlocked with a with weapons in it. >> Unsecured. >> The Forbes and all the other ones, they drop down in all the way. They're not sticking up a half inch like that. >> We can notify the supervisor of >> pull the door handle. See if it's unlocked. Easiest thing to do. They won't do it. Damn it. I would You might want to check the door handle real quick. Not just call >> just for liability reasons, you know. >> And I can, like I said, >> just open it and lock it. >> Call the supervisor. And I mean, I can do that, too, but >> just, you know, smart thing to do. >> Yep. Unlocked. Unsecured weapon. Can't be having that, man. There's kids in this town. >> Whoa. afternoon. >> How's it going? >> Afternoon. >> Wow. >> That's why I pushed for him to open the door. That way we That way we had 100%. >> Yes. Yeah. He's texting whoever it is now. He's in that car. >> Not my first rodeo. >> Yeah, you called that one, man. Good call. >> I've gotten a captain fired over it. Yep. >> Well, he resigned a week later, but same difference. [Laughter] [Music] >> The the mayor, somebody came down and talked to us too last time. city attorney over there. >> Well, they're having a meeting here tonight, aren't they? >> Yep. 6:00. >> 6:00 p.m. be a meeting in there tonight. >> I don't think they wanted us to go up in the elevator last time. >> Right here to the left is the clerk >> for public records. >> We're going to need the public record or who's who's got car. >> It's upstairs. Upstairs is where But it says >> elevator >> upper. >> Where's the police department then? >> The police department's on the third floor. How can I help you? >> We need to state that somebody in the police department. So, >> wait. How can I help you? >> Uh, there's a car outside, a patrol car that's unlocked with weapons in it laying out loose >> here. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Car. >> Yep. >> It's a danger to to the entire community. We just uh there were three officers that just came out of the side fire entrance over on the side >> over it's over here though. >> Yep. Yep. And they opened the door of the car in front of us and locked the door and closed it. But we >> Well, they wanted just to walk away, but I demanded no. You need to open the door and lock it real quick. That's just ridiculous. >> So, we need a supervisor to file complaints and do some other stuff. >> Hang on one second. >> And we were here for other issues in the first place. So, that was just um for a minute. I'll have something. >> That works. Perfect. Thank you. >> Same rules as last time. [Music] >> You want to get public records? >> It's probably from the PD. I think you don't have who's got uh what officers assigned to what car. >> We get public records. >> That's what I figured. It's going to be upstairs. Where do we get public records for the PD then? >> Um, there's a black phone on the other side of the hallway. It'll give it says PD records on it. You'll click it and it'll ring to the third floor. Okay. >> And then they can come down. >> Okay. >> Yeah, we've probably got somebody already coming down from the third floor already. >> Okay, so that's good then. >> All right, that works perfect. Thank you very much. Have a good day. That was such a good find. I mean, after last night with with the way they behaved last night and now that today. >> Wow. >> I don't think there was anywhere else to really go in this building. >> No, I don't remember. I think that was it. Everything else is key card locked. Yeah, if you want to talk to the PD, you just use that. Pick it up and it rings. It rings quite a few times, but they'll answer. >> Okay. Justified automatic collections kiosk. >> Hello. >> Hi. >> Um, >> always good. Can never go wrong with pizza. >> We might close it. >> Hello. >> Hi. >> How can I help you? >> Just looking around. Very good. [Applause] >> Sorry. >> They got utility billing locked. Locked down. >> Really locked down. >> They want that money though, don't they? Push a button, start, do some other stuff to stop. >> Yay. Tell you to stop. Shove it in there. The regular ones with He had to flip his name badge around. Oh my goodness. >> He's ashamed. >> Oh my goodness. [Music] Hello. >> How's it going? Good. Hey young lady. >> Yes, sir. Oh my god. Think we should talk to Chris, too. >> Huh? I think we should talk to Ernest too. >> To who? >> Ernest. >> Oh yeah, definitely. I mean that we might have to come back tonight. >> We might >> I mean they just gave it to >> or Andrew. >> Yep. Yep. Or Ernest is the other week cuz he's the one who's going to have to defend what's going on. >> Yep. He's the one in charge of the liability. >> Yep. It's going to be Ernest goes to school today. Ernest goes to jail. >> There's no Ernest P. Waro here. >> Should at least turn up the volume. >> Here they come. I think maybe I see a sergeant coming that girl from earlier. >> From where? Outside. I just seen him pass by the windows hiding up in the mirror. I can see a sergeant and that girl. I don't know who she is. She is >> Hold on. I'm trying to find Where's Jr. >> Um Okay, I'm back. [Music] Hey to her train. >> Huh? >> Tore train of thought. She was just complaining about it. I was trying to get this problem fixed and then these guys showed up. I had to talk to them and it's just and then the doors finished closing. We threw her little train of thought that she was doing messed her whole day up. Been watching a cop car on fire. >> Somebody says they've been watching a cop car on fire. Oh. I was at a traffic stop recording one day and this cop's car just kind of starts smoking and catches on fire and as I walked up the cop mouth off >> got lippy and uh >> How you doing? >> Good. How are you doing today? >> Good. I understand you want to talk to the supervisor. >> Yes, sir. >> What's going on? >> Who is assigned to car 151 over on the side of the building right now? >> Uh I'm not 100% sure. We'll go find out though. What's going on? >> He left his vehicle unlocked with the service weapon right >> in his passenger seat. >> Okay. How do you know? >> We've got it on film. >> You got it on film. Can I look at it? Do you mind if I see it? [Music] >> And a couple detectives witnessed it, too. >> Yeah. >> We They wanted just to walk away and said, "We'll call somebody." I said, "No, you need to like lock the door real quick." Not that's just like too much liability, you know? You're going to get in trouble, too. >> Yeah. >> Go that way. >> Yeah. Okay. So, >> and he's asking him right now about the car and we'll go right over here. [Applause] just is sitting right >> cuz I know the for >> How do you know that? How do you know that's unlocked? >> Because the nubs sticking out a half inch. >> Yeah, you can see the door >> lock. >> And then the cop walks up and opens it in front of us on camera. >> Clearly. >> Oh, you see that the the little knob that >> the boards go all the way down in touch it. So >> he just did. That's how >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I tried getting him to open it, but he was too afraid. >> Yeah, that'd be I wasn't touchy. >> No, only if you take something. >> So, I didn't touch it. >> Don't do that. >> Okay. >> But we made one of your officers do that. So, >> yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> But he just locked it. >> Okay. How would you How would you like us to handle this? What do you want? >> Um Well, I mean, I'm sure that if I pull your policies, it's definitely probably a policy violation. >> It's a gun violation, unsecured weapon. >> Some other stuff probably there cuz that's naughty. Like, that's naughty. It's a state violation, too. State law violation. >> What's the state law? >> You can't leave guns unattended and unsecured. >> You sure about that? >> Yeah. >> In a car? >> I've seen cops fired over in the state of Florida. >> Okay. Well, I mean, over policy, but is it state law? Is there state law that violate? >> I'm pretty sure your gun has to be secured at all times. You're not allowed just to lay a gun on the sidewalk and walk away from it. >> Remember though, we got open open carry laws now. >> I know, but still, that's not open carry. >> Yeah, >> you still got to secure your weapons. I'll I'll look at that and see see what it says and all that. But um so what so what would you like me to do? Would you like me to just handle it internally or you guys want to file a formal complaint? How do you want to >> you want to file a formal complaint? Okay. So what I'll do is I'll go ahead and get the paperwork for that for you guys to do. >> Okay. >> And let you do that and uh we'll take another set of paper. >> We also came in for a different reason why we was this happened as we're not. >> Okay. So this so last night at 11:40 p.m. we found CVS alert for a traffic stop. You guys had pulled somebody over and we were standing, if you are looking at the doors to CVS where the curb comes and the abupment ends from the curb. >> We were standing on that little abupment right there and the officer's car was all the way over clear across the parking lot. Clear across the parking lot. His window was up. We never spoke to him one time. We never said anything to him. We never got close to his car. We never interfered at all. We didn't do anything wrong. We just kind of stayed at the end of that abupment where the curb is and just filmed from that edge right there. >> Okay. >> I could see on his radio that he was talking on his radio. So, I don't know if he called for backup or somebody drove by and saw us. >> It was our assumption. That's >> that he called. Okay, >> the next officer that pulled up came over to us and it's Guerrero is who it was. Car 137. He said his name and badge number so quickly it sounded like 4390. >> All we heard is 43 for sure. >> I'm not sure what it was, but it was Guerrero. >> Guerrero. >> Guerrero. Maybe >> it's probably it was so hard to hear him. And I asked him a couple times just like we're speaking right now. I said, "I can't hear you. I can't understand you." >> And he pushed us back via the Halo law. said, "I already told you. I'm not going to tell you again something >> 25 ft." But that's but we have to have intent to harass and pee. It's 843 what I was saying where what was occurring. There was no reason for him to act the way he did. >> We didn't bother nobody. >> When we said that to him, like when where we were standing and you looked at the car as he walked up to us, >> we were already 25t away. >> You need to be 25 ft away. And I said, "We're clearly 25 ft away and we haven't said a word to anybody. We're not doing anything wrong." And he pushed us back and he identified very, very quickly. Like I couldn't even tell you his name. That's how quick it was. And I couldn't understand his badge number. And then he went right to the point to where it seemed like he was going to arrest us if we didn't move right then and there. So we complied and moved back a little bit from where we were. And then as he was walking away, he smuggly told us to get a job. because we were kind of giving it to him a little bit at that point because he had already given it to us. >> Not really. I was just saying 843.31 and I was trying to explain to him that I was saying to him I mean like we were more heated in our in our vocal >> of him. But we weren't swearing at him at that point as he was leaving like >> Yeah. We didn't threaten or anything. >> Yeah. Nothing for him to behave like that. And I told him that I was going to come in today and that's what he said. He said get a job. >> Okay. And I kind of >> very unbecoming of an officer. >> Did you get all that on video also? >> Yep. >> All right. So, not trying to pass a buck. >> Um >> I'm with it. >> So, I'm not trying to pass a buck, but um >> so neither of these individuals are >> in my sphere of responsibility. >> It's not my squad. >> Yep. >> Um so I' I'd rather have either their supervisor >> or someone higher up go ahead and deal with the situation. >> Not that I don't want to. It's just >> we assume that would be normal because this one's Yeah. >> So, I'll take care of it. So, let me do this. Let me go grab you. Um let me grab you two forms. >> Okay. >> Um four one for each of us cuz we're each filing complaints. >> Okay. So, you're going to do this individually. >> Yeah. Yeah. Or do you want to do >> We can just do one for how you guys want to do it. Grab I'll grab two forms for you then. >> Okay. >> Um you can photocopy if you you know if you want to if you decide that you want to do your own. >> Yeah. No, that's fine. One's going to get the point across. I think >> you guys go ahead and fill those out. You're saying you got to get them notorized and all that good stuff. >> Um, >> but uh >> the pro the problem is too is from 25 ft it makes it especially at night it's very difficult to see clearly and hear clearly at all and then you're going to push us another 25 ft back where we really can't hear or anything what's going on. That's that's violating our rights at that point at that point. >> So like I'm not going to dispute it. I wasn't there. >> Sure. Yeah. That's why we have video that you can't dispute. I would say I I would say that maybe in the future like um if you have something that's happening like that right then get with the supervisor immediately that's that's on duty at that time. >> He just took off and he he bolted from >> at 7fold 7777 donated 5 Canadian dollars through super chat. In other news, cops continue to investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing. Shocked face emoji, lying face emoji, tangu emoji 24/7 >> now. Yeah, you'd have to go to the phone, that little phone booth that's there in front of the uh the door, >> but we're 24/7. >> Typically, it's better to come in and see command staff though at that point when this is when it's something like this. >> You know, it's kind of hit or miss >> and it's better for us to cool down too after getting your rights violated. It's kind of traumatizing. disagree with that. >> It's like, >> yeah, sometimes we have to step back, go back, watch and look, think about it, talk to a lawyer, >> and I get your point. >> You know, sometimes if you're really upset about something, you go, >> it doesn't feel good to have your rights violated. I know it's common for some people, but it's not a good feeling. I mean, >> so try it next time if you feel that something's going on. Call and and I'll tell you because this is why because you can always like if you're not getting If you're not getting the answer that you're meeting >> at that point with the supervisor, you can always go up from there. >> Mhm. >> You know, >> yeah, >> it but but that's kind of the starting point. And to be honest with you, >> that's probably at least for the situation yesterday, that's probably what they're going to do. They're going to they're going to say, "Hey, we're going to start at this point. Sergeant Mason first >> and kind of go from there. Let Sergeant Mason handle it or whatever. I don't know. >> I'm just saying that's probably >> whatever you want to do. I mean, >> yeah. >> Yeah, I get you. Let me uh let me grab those uh forms for you and we'll take your >> You got a tricycle you're riding around the halls in here. Hey, listen. I probably need >> I like I like him better though when they're doing the Rush stuff. >> Yes. >> When he does the Rush parody. >> Yeah. Way better. >> Agreed. Agreed. >> All right. Thank you. Appreciate it, man. >> All right. What do you guys think? What's up, AFG? Freaking awesome. Speculum, Ross Con, Trump, Wolfman, Claudette, Afterlife Time. No afterlife amplifiers need something black amplifiers. Afterlife amplifiers. My goldfish. What's up? Margate New England. Wa. Misty. Dar cat. Ross. Johnny. Johnny. Aren't you supposed to be at work? You didn't get any of their names or anything, did you? >> What >> them outside? Did you see? >> I'm sure the camera did. >> Ask them to go back into the chat and go back in and check and see what the one that opened and closed the door was cuz he had a detective with a name right on the side. So, >> yeah. Somebody go back in my live and see if you can get names off the t-shirts of the cops outside by the parking lot. the detectives that I was trying to get to open the door or that I had to basically make open the door. >> Yes. >> I'm like, you can't just like walk away and call your supervisor. You need to like lock this thing now. No. What's up, Rom Keith? Rum, me and I were just talking about you because he was reading your comment to me earlier. Michael, Amber, Frank, hopefully I didn't miss anybody. Bug I am. >> Yep. Look at that. We come to follow through with last night and look at what we find when we get here. >> I know. >> Now it's starting to be a pattern with this place. >> Yep. Get a job, you filthy animal. friends in code. I don't know. We're waiting for the supervisor. Come back with some complaint forms or whatnot. >> Ion Marget donated $2 through super chat. Shout out to eyes on the state. >> Who's that? >> Direct D for governor. >> I love it. Thank you. Got my vote. Yeah. >> Shout out to Eyes on the State from Eyes on Eye on Margate. >> Ah, tell him thank you very much. >> Did he show up? >> Yes, he did. >> He said he was going He said he was going to be mad if I didn't go. He wanted a refund, but >> I tried, man. I just >> It was good meeting him. >> I've been traveling. >> Trump said things >> LD Speculum. >> You know what we ought to do when we go outside? around the rest of the parking lot and check every single one of the >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I've been doing that for years, man. >> I have too, just not that much. Like, >> yeah. >> Not quite. You know, I normally do. >> I always got my eye on the keyhole. This building's kind of okay. It's kind of bounce. The signal bounces around in here. It's kind of okay. Kind of. >> Yeah, that's why I stat. >> Yeah. Maybe we should check the toilet paper rolls. >> Oh, that'd be a good idea. Make sure they've got the handles, too, in there because you got to have the handle to be able to >> make sure it's all ADA compliant. >> Uh-huh. Uh-huh. >> Maybe we should test the firebox, too, just to make sure. The pull station. >> Yeah. That one should make sure with Liberty Hangout. The one girl that worked at the building with Liberty Hangout, not Liberty Hangout, Liberty Troll. She walked over and snapped and cleared the building house because he was recording. >> Wow. >> This place like like six people came down from downstairs when me and Joey were here like a year ago. >> Yeah. >> Like the mayor and stuff came down. >> He gets upstairs and he tells the story that he just got told what what's going to happen. Six of them are going to come down together now. Time for intimidation. >> Yeah, but they can't because they're in the wrong on all of it. >> Exactly. They are every time. What do you mean? >> I've never filed a complaint on a cop when he was in the right. I mean >> Yeah. I mean, >> but normally we've had a few more extra choice words involved in it than what was occurred last night. >> Yeah. >> Like last night was pretty blaz. >> Yeah. All right. >> Hey, >> I went ahead and did four. >> Okay, that works. >> Just in case. >> Okay. >> Um, they're kind of divided up here. Uh, the instructions are on here. >> Just follow the instructions. Fill it out. >> Okay. And then uh >> you've got to uh you got to get it um >> would um the description link to a video work for description for you >> say YouTube or whatever. Yeah, just write in the hyperlink in there and you can just >> because it's hard to send video files without losing resolution and >> but I mean the camera the camera doesn't forget. It doesn't miss memory. I mean it doesn't do anything like it tells the perfect story. That's why we all wear them, right? >> So >> that's a good question. I don't have an answer for you. >> Okay. >> Um >> I mean cuz that would tell the >> as you're filling this out >> Uh-huh. You could probably call and talk to um ask speak to Sergeant Smith. >> Okay. >> I don't know if he's still here or not. >> Tomorrow is another day. >> Yep. Tomorrow. >> Ask to speak to Sergeant Smith. >> Mhm. >> And ask him about it. >> Uh I'm sure there is a way that we can do that and get that uploaded into our video system. >> Okay. >> To view. So >> that's fine. >> I think that's definitely a possible. >> Yeah. That way you guys can see it and there's no questions. And then it's not just words written on a paper cuz I don't know if he had a body cam on last night. I like we didn't see anything and he should >> How do we uh request um you know um public information? >> So you go through a record department >> and and do do the request. >> Is that on there or something or >> Yeah, >> it's not on here. But if you call um if you call our records if you call this number right here >> can records >> because we tried to go in there to do it in the city but they said that through records. >> Yeah, you can do a public record. >> Is she Is she or he still here now in the records department? Can you send them down and can we just give it to him right now? >> Uh let me find out. You want to go find out? >> Okay. Yeah, perfect. Yeah, cuz we're all done otherwise. So >> Okay. >> Okay, cool. Thank you. appreciate. Uh I'll I'll find the the link for you if there's a way if there's a way for y'all to do that. >> And uh >> that way she'll have my email and stuff too. >> Yeah, it's going to be two different people on that. So, let me find out for you. >> Okay. All right. Perfect. Thank you. >> Do you want your copies of this? no matter what. So that's all that's important. We can sit down later and do it. Whatever. >> Yeah. Or you can do it at >> We can sit down later together lunch. >> I think I think the the hyperlink is the easiest thing to do, too, cuz then we just write the hyperlink in home and we're done. Exactly. And >> we don't have to write some big huge >> they have to manually type it in. But but or or get an email from internal affairs or whoever and we can just send them a link. >> Yep. Yep. >> Whatever. >> Either way they submit the video, you're going to have to give them a link or >> or an email or something to Dropbox, you know. >> They all know who I am. So, >> you know what I mean? >> You're filing a complaint. So, >> yeah. >> They're going to know who you are if they didn't before. >> Yeah. They all know who I am. But he shouldn't have told me to get a job last night. >> Shouldn't have violated our rights. Pushed us back when we were already back. We didn't violate the law already. And he's misusing the statute. >> Yep. He needs some retraining >> more than that. I don't think it's acceptable. I think they need fired. >> I think I >> I'm strict. I'm old school. >> Fire them. >> I think they should the training they've already received. They should be well aware of it by now. There shouldn't be any questions. one was definitely an inexcusable event. >> If you're if you're going to be a law enforcement officer, you better know the statute >> before you enforce it. >> Yep. >> You cannot enforce statutes that you don't know, understand, or have memorized. That's just that's just crazy. >> You know, that's not acceptable in any society. whenever possible. Minor breaches. That was definitely not a minor breach. >> Yes. Florida statutes in public. There's got to be That's just crazy. I've never seen a state where you can just leave guns laying around open in public. That's just [ __ ] It's open carrier now. That's your cover up it. What the hell? Somebody might have put it down earlier, but I missed it. If you did, now for seen one, you know that when it's locked, that thing isn't all the way down in, you know. See how that is? that's down in there. There's a little nubby sticking up, but that that other one was a/ inch up cuz they're hard to, you know, compared to other one other vehicles, you know, that have bigger, you know, things like this is same way on a what a Chevy Traverse. Same way, but you know, back in the 80s and stuff, I used to lock myself out of my cars. And so that's how I I became aware of that like all Fords were that way and you know some cars that was sticking out and it was bigger or square or rectangle and you could like you know and it had grooves in it. You could hook a hanger into it and pop it up. You know, a lot of them are in the door handles and stuff. Used to have [Music] pop out, but not much. Not so much anymore. Yeah. Like they don't have anything coming out the door. That thing doesn't have anything coming out the door. Everything's in the door handles now. Nope. even the old Hyundai. But, you know, certain cars you could, you know, or pretty much any car back in the 80s, 90s, except for Fords, you could like bend a hanger and hook it in there and just kind of pull up on that. And that's what kind of made me aware of Ford's doing that. Me and Joey Serillam were here I don't know six months ago year ago I don't remember. [Music] I need my other phone so I can find the statutes. my um so just just send the video to that. >> Okay. >> The public records request >> I will take that request >> from you right now. >> Okay. Um, however you want. If you want me to have them contact both of y'all or if you want to have you want to be contact information you want to be contacted and then I will email >> and then they will start with you. Yep. I'm well record and so you're not going to get the complaint handle that I'm going to request. So, do I just figure out who's to badge number 151 sign? So, I'll use that and so let's from last night then at 11:40 I just know what time it was at CBS >> CBS on 56 down here and 137 and 137. >> Yep. I'm gonna want both of their body cams for that incident. And it should be probably like 10 minutes long. It shouldn't be very long at all. The 137 is the one that showed up and pushed us back. But the 147 will show that. >> I know they're probably jamming the signal. probably jamming the signal, >> but I don't know. Then part's done anyways for video and my records a hard copy too at the same time, right? But there's just to stay with you guys. Signal sucks. still cracking. That is in my hot spot with me. Could have tried to amp it up, but we'll be